Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,20:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,09:17)Hi AllIt seems to me that those who do not see Jesus as equally God in nature do not really see or know him as the “Only Begotten Son/God”, but it is more like they know a Jesus that is the opposite of God the Father like some sort of half breed as Ed calls him.You…[Read more]

Hi MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,20:17)Hi Keith,Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,09:04)It doesn't matter what your opinion is Mike because every one knows that for God to beget a Son would mean that his being would have to be the exact same in nature as the Fathers being.My son has the same nature as I do………but he is not me.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,21:41)Satan has successfully blinded the minds of these ones by convincing them they are doing God and His Son a favor by breaking the very commandment of God not to worship anyone but Him.MikeYes of course, all the millions of believers out there that are Trinitarians and are leading 1000s to Christ everyday and…[Read more]

JackThe anti Jesus is God people see a different Jesus than what is taught in the scriptures.God is a consuming fire which must mean that Jesus is also a consuming fire yet when they see Jesus they don't see a consuming fire but a flashlight.The flash light and the fire are completely different in nature. Jesus is the “the radiance of God's glory…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 24 2011,10:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2011,13:01)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 23 2011,13:33)Yes I am the same being as…………..my father.Jack, You are so precious to me!  Have you gone completely off your rocker?  mikeJMike,Just as I thought. You cannot refute the dictionaries. Did you read the d…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,20:32)Hi All,I said to Keith in the “Mike vs Francis” thread:Quote If there are others called elohim who are neither God Almighty nor false gods, then JUST being called “elohim” is not proof of being God Almighty.Keith responded:Quote Isn't that what Francis, D, and Jack and I have been saying………….Everyone…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 23 2011,15:28)ED J said:Quote No obscurity! They are both “equally” true.But it's The Father in Christ doing the works!Yet Jesus said, “AS the Father works I work.”No other man made such a claim. This is why they wanted to kill Him.KJHi JackExactly and that is why they wanted to stone Jesus because he claimed that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 23 2011,13:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 24 2011,04:55)If he is 50% God then he is not God.Hi WJ,That's what they keep telling you; is it not?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDYes and they are also telling me he is not man either but some sort of demi-god or half breed! WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 23 2011,12:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 24 2011,02:04)MikeIf God begets God then the God he begets is God just like the Man a Man begets is Man.WJHi WJ,Sounds like you might be beginning to grasp the 50% nature of Jesus' lineage; but maybe not?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIf he is 50% God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,21:15)Keith, considering that you have clearly said this,Quote Isn't that what Francis, D, and Jack and I have been saying………….Everyone not just I are saying that just because Jesus is called God does not mean he is God.……………is Titus 2:13 even worth your time?  Even if there was a way you could…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,02:26)Why do you only give the Father credit and not them?Not true.We honour the true God as the Most High and we honour his son as the son and lamb, and we honour the prophets as servants of the Most High.Credit is given where credit is due. We don't want to give false credit…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,20:53)What I have done is point out to you that even IF your preferred translation of 2:13 is the correct one, it is still only a case of Jesus being called “theos”.Mike No it is “Great theos” not just “theos”. Do you know of any other called “My Great theos and Savour”?  WJ

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,02:26)So the next time you should say THEY spoke to me and led me and saved me, right?Do you serve the Trinity, the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit or not?We serve the one God who is the Father.t8Again, you didn't answer the quesiton. How do you know the difference in who you…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,02:26)When you say God spoke to you, who are you talking about?The Father? Did the Father speak to you without the Holy Spirit or Jesus?When God speaks to me, it could be through any number of things before it gets to me.t8 You didn't answer the questions. You know that the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,08:19)The Father is not God because Jesus is in him? Is that what you are trying to say about the Father being in Jesus?Why do you miss this point?Here is a clue:We can be in God and be one with God, Jesus, each other.So, are we God? Are we Jesus?You get the idea now I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,21:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 22 2011,15:19)Both the Father and Jesus are called God in scriptures and we know they are One. Not only that but according to Tit 2:13, John 20:28 he is our Lord and Great God.Yeah Keith,But wasn't it you who said, “just because Jesus is called God does not mean he is God”?…[Read more]

Hi AllIt seems to me that those who do not see Jesus as equally God in nature do not really see or know him as the “Only Begotten Son/God”, but it is more like they know a Jesus that is the opposite of God the Father like some sort of half breed as Ed calls him.Those who do not see Jesus as God like his Father must believe that God had a Son that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:36)Jesus is not the son of some “species of Godkind”.  He is the Son of God, the BEING.  And as the son OF God, the BEING, he cannot possibly BE God, the BEING, anymore than Cain could have been Adam, the being.MikeIt doesn't matter what your opinion is Mike because every one knows that for God to beget a Son w…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:36)I'm about to put an end to this circling that you guys do.  Just watch and see.Bring it on O mighty one! WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2011,18:36)The problem is that you guys will “recirulate” the same lame “proof texts” over and over again.  And when one of us finally CORNERS you into acknowledging the truth of one of them, you divert the discussion with other tired “proof texts” until enough time has passed…………..and then bring the one you…[Read more]