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    Quote (942767 @ Mar. 04 2011,14:49)Hi Keith:I am always open to correction if it is God correcting me through the scriptures, but I don't get it.You say that Matthew 28:19 with the Tri-une formula does in no way contradict what the apostles did.Did the Apostles baptize in the Tri-une formula?  Is the Holy Ghost the “Third Person” of a Tri-une…[Read more]

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    What are you saying Pierre?Are you saying that scriptures contradict themselves?WJ

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    Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years ago

    MikeWhy did you just make a post full of insults and fleshly innuendos and demand another answer to another question after I just answered yours and then you not answer mine?Here I will repost it and lets see if you can answer without all kinds of condemning and condescending insults!Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,20:35)Since I am not only the…[Read more]

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    Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,20:12)Keith said:Quote We reflect the light but we are not the light as John the Baptist said…The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. “He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. THAT WAS THE TRUE LIGHT, WHICH LIGHTETH EVERY MAN…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,18:37)Really Keith?  Isn't it fairly obvious the “problem” we all have with it?Yep It sure is obvious that you have a problem with scripture just like you do with many other proof text.WJ

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,18:28)Keith, the war is lost for you my friend.  We have one spurious scripture against many scriptures that show us clearly whose name people were baptized into.  Do you really think the disciples just ignored Jesus' command and picked their own name in which to baptize people?MikeWhat this proves to me is no m…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,18:55)For all:Especially take note of the quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia at 2 minutes and 30 seconds into the video.And the quote from Pope Benedict XVI located at 7 minutes, 45 seconds into the video.peace and love,mikeMikeHa Ha, you should check your resources before you make claims.This is what the video…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,18:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 03 2011,14:26)MikeProve it is corrupt big boy!WJKeith, don't you get it yet?  I don't have to “prove it corrupt”, although Eusebius' own unrefuted words do a good job of that.  :)  But even as it is, it says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about any “triune Godhead”.  Don't you get that?  [Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,18:06)Read it all, Keith – not just the parts that suit you.  We've seen an actual QUOTE of a writing from Eusebius where he CLEARLY says “in my name” was the command from Jesus.Ha ha MikeI have read it all and it is merely speculation to say the scripture was doctored. There is absolutely zero proof of such but…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2011,22:01)What will you say when an older ms is found that has “in my name” in 28:19, like the one Eusebius claimed to have read?MikeHere is Eusebius own words…We believe in One God, the Father Almighty, the Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in One Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God, God from God, Light f…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Mar. 03 2011,15:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 04 2011,07:23)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 03 2011,14:20)I have done what I can do to show you the truth by the scriptures.  If you or they won't change, it is between you and they and God.Marty That is hillarious! You say you use scriptures to show me the truth yet you reject the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2011,22:01)What will you say when an older ms is found that has “in my name” in 28:19, like the one Eusebius claimed to have read?Will you then cease to be a trinitarian and join the side of truth?  (Hint:  Neither translation says ANYTHING about a “trinity Godhead”.  But you go ahead and hold on to this one for dear li…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 02 2011,22:23)If 3 listed together once proves a trinity then does 2 listed together many times prove a bi-nity?David The point is Jesus mentions “Three” all having the definite article and sharing a “singular name”.The point of this thread is to prove that Jesus mentions “a trinity”.Do you disagree with that David.So rather…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2011,22:01)Really Keith?  What about 1 John 5:8?  Wasn't that found to be a “corrupt scripture”?  How about the word “God” in Jude 1:4?  Wasn't that scripture WITH the word “God” in it found to be “corrupt”?  Are you seeing a pattern here?  It seems to me that trinitarians have been trying to “doctor” the Good Book…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Mar. 03 2011,14:20)I have done what I can do to show you the truth by the scriptures.  If you or they won't change, it is between you and they and God.Marty That is hillarious! You say you use scriptures to show me the truth yet you reject the scripture.This will be the kind of reaction you will get from others who you try to…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 02 2011,22:49)WJ, do you admit that the Johannine Comma (a Trinitarian support verse) is fraudulent?If so, then are you open to the possibility that other verses including Matthew 28:19 could be of dubious origin?t8The Johannine Comma was found in some extant manuscripts but not most.Mattew 28:19 is in every extant manuscript and…[Read more]

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    Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,20:35)Since I am not only the son of “a” human father, but the only son of the ONLY human father, am I now equally and exactly Adam?If not, then why would the only Son of the only God be equally and exactly that God?You only need answer the bolded question Keith.Hi mikeThe answer is “YES” you are exactly and…[Read more]

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    Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years ago

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 02 2011,23:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,09:40)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 02 2011,11:10)Amen Keith! God is light. Christ is the TRUE light (John 1:9). The implication is clear. If Christ was the mere reflection of God, then He could not Himself be the TRUE (or genuine) light.JackYet the disciples are now the “light”,…[Read more]

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    Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years ago

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 02 2011,23:03)Adam is the only one who is in identity Adam. adam is all mankind, including Adam.t8Wrong! There are no caps in Hebrew first of all.Second if Adam is part of all mankind then he is also adam or human like all other adams.Just as Jesus is not the Father but is also God in nature as the Father.Jesus is exactly like the…[Read more]

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    Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years ago

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 03 2011,10:54)Quote Jackt8 and Mike try to make the argument that Adam is in identity not also adam.Yet Adam is as much a part of humanity as adam.Therefore adam also “identifies” Adam.Once again as I said before, if you see a creature that runs on four legs and barks then you would “identify” that animal as a…[Read more]

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