Quote (david @ Mar. 08 2011,00:46)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 08 2011,03:25)David said:Quote And Jesus directed glory to the Father.And the Father directs the glory back to Jesus (John 17:1).Please tell the WHOLE truth!Thanks,KJKJ, I don't think you understood my point.  After WJ said that the holy spirit works behind the scenes, he said: Quote Jes…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2011,16:52)WJ, and a great percentage of Christendom also have a form or religion but not much power.It is by our traditions that we nullify the power of God.Maybe there is a pattern emerging here?t8Actually it depends on how you look at it.Jesus had 70 regular followers and then after Penticost there were 1000s that turned the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2011,20:24)God has given me all the confidence that I now have by leading me to every truth that has shut down every one of your trinitarian claims so far.You mean like Matthew 28:19 and John 1:1?WJ

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 07 2011,14:15)The Didache is not the inspired Word of God, and therefore, it does not prove anything except it shows where some false practices regarding baptism originated.MartyWrong! It proves along with many other writings of the early Fathers that the tripart form of Matt 28:19 is scripture.WJ

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 07 2011,14:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 08 2011,05:44)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 07 2011,12:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 08 2011,02:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2011,16:58)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 06 2011,13:11)I got a “real grip” on what you already said, “That if Jesus meant water baptism in using the Tri-une formula…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 06 2011,15:10)Did the Father send “Himself”?  The Father sent His Spirit who is the Father's personal presence dwelling within us.  God is living person with a mind, a will, and emotions, whose throne is in heaven, but who can be everywhere by His Spirit.That doesn't answer the question or the scripture does it Marty?If the F…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 07 2011,12:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 08 2011,02:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2011,16:58)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 06 2011,13:11)I got a “real grip” on what you already said, “That if Jesus meant water baptism in using the Tri-une formula Trinitarians cannot win”, and since Trinitarians baptize new converts in water using…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2011,16:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 27 2011,04:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,18:23)Yes Keith, I said that.  And seeing how YHVH is called “god” many times in scripture, I'd say it goes without saying, right?   Deborah being called “god” doesn't mean she is NOT God, but it doesn't mean she IS, right?  Same with Mo…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 06 2011,01:23)OK, you started this thread on Feb 23d.  Do you remember roughly how many days it was before He said that, and you started this new thread.  Was it right away?  Or was it a matter of weeks?  Any ideas?I'm not opposed to wading through many pages of material, but if there is way to narrow it down.  (Even a gues…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 07 2011,01:20)Everyone not just I are saying that just because Jesus is called God does not mean he is God.We have been telling you all along it is all about contextNow, corrected for Grammar: “Everyone not just saying that just because Jesus is called God does not mean he is God. . . . It is all about context.”–WJDavidJohn…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2011,12:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2011,12:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2011,09:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2011,10:16)Keith, in light of the 2000 YEARS of doubt surrounding this one scripture that doesn't even say anything about any triune God anyway, don't you think it's weak on your part to hold…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 05 2011,16:01)If they were a trinity, do you not find it a little weird that they are not listed together more than a couple times?  I do.David What do you mean if they were a “Trinity”?Three having the definite article and sharing a singular name is “a Trinity” no matter how you look at it.What are you saying? Matthew 28:19…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2011,11:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 06 2011,02:50)Mike said:Quote The green words above are words written by TRINITARIANS!We just want the word of God Mike. PRODUCE THE MANUSCRIPT MIKE!JackJack,Please answer my very simple question:Don't you find it a little odd that Jesus gave an EXACT formula for baptism, yet…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 07 2011,01:05)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 06 2011,19:48)David said:Quote MULTIPLE times the Father and Son are listed together without the holy spirit being mentioned.  How is that a trinity?David,MULTIPLE times WJ and I have told you that the role of the Holy Spirit is a “behind the scenes” role. Jesus said that the Holy…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2011,16:58)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 06 2011,13:11)I got a “real grip” on what you already said, “That if Jesus meant water baptism in using the Tri-une formula Trinitarians cannot win”, and since Trinitarians baptize new converts in water using this formula, they by your own admission lose, and that includes Kieth also,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 07 2011,10:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 08 2011,01:38)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 07 2011,09:03)TO ALL,The congregation voted overwhelmingly to “forgive” the so called loan. Someone called for the resignation of the treasurer but was told by the moderator that this is for another congregational meeting.Anyway, I am…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 07 2011,09:51)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 03 2011,15:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 26 2011,05:12)In what sense is Jesus not God right now?Please answer the question.WJHe is not God in identity. He is not the one identified as the one true God. He is not the person who is the Almighty God.t8,You have answered your own question…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 01 2010,16:38)A part of a whole cannot be disassociated with the whole in reference to substance or nature. If Jesus took on sin then All of the substance of God would have become sin and the corruptible cannot inherit incorruption.Hey BD Hope you and yours are well. First of all Jesus said they can kill our bodys but not…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 02 2011,23:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 26 2011,05:12)In what sense is Jesus not God right now?Please answer the question.WJHe is not God in identity. He is not the one identified as the one true God. He is not the person who is the Almighty God.t8No t8? We know he is not the Father. That is not the question. I will refine…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 03 2011,00:50)Quote Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, “but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God”. John 5:35 God is my Father.  There, according to the misguided Jews who were enemies of God, I am apparently making myself equal to God as well.…[Read more]