Quote (942767 @ Mar. 12 2011,11:15)You did not answer my question, and apparently, you can't read, because the scripture states specifically that “the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.Yes MartyBut when are you going to answer my questions?Jesus is the Son OF God, does that mean he is the Father?Then why do you assume that the “Spirit of God” is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,12:02)Jesus is LIKE his God, as my son is LIKE me.  But Jesus is not his God any more than my son is me.MikeThank you and I have copied that in my folder.If your son is human like you then why isn't Jesus God like his Father?If Jesus is like his Father like you are your Father, then in nature he is God like his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,11:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,10:18)Keith, is any one of these INDIVIDUAL BEINGS the exact same INDIVIDUAL BEING as his father?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,10:46)No.Thank you Keith.  I will add this to my thread.  Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,10:18)Keith, how many beings are there in this “…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,10:18)Keith, would you answer these?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2011,12:24)There are billions of beings known as “mankind”. Is there more than “one mankind”? Is there more than “one Godkind?Thank God.  You have fallen away from Jack's absurdity that humankind consists only of ONE BEING.  But now that you ad…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2011,21:12)1.  The Word is THE God.2.  In the beginning, THE God was WITH THE God.  (God is ONE BEING, so the ONE BEING of God cannot possibly be WITH the ONE BEING of God.)  3.  THE God became flesh, and people were able to see THE God and touch THE God, in direct contrast to what the scriptures teach.4.  THE God is be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,09:40) god by whom he created all things.  If you want a Polytheistic Bible then take the NWT and the few scarce unreliable translations if you like and continue to teach there is more than one god in John 1:1.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,21:17)If you cannot show me this, then your answer of “YES, it is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,09:40)I'm talking about CLEAR EVIDENCE that SPECIFICALLY says 1:1c ABSOLUTELY CANNOT BE TRANSLATED AS “THE WORD WAS A GOD” BECAUSE THE GREEK WORDS SIMPLY DO NOT ALLOW FOR THAT TRANSLATION.MikeWhat more can anyone give you that is not clear? The 1000s of experts in Biblical Hebrew and Greek did not sign off their…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,09:40)Keith, why do you think the Coptic version has been “hidden away” by the trinitarian “cream of Greek scholarship”?MikeDavids so called evidence has already been debunked! Do some research and come again. What will you have? Nothing to stack against the translations and translators today. WJ

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,11:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,09:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,21:17)Do I need to go through the 8482 times the indefinite article “A” is added into scripture?Not with the word “theos”, God you can't, can you?Yes, as a matter of fact I can.Acts 28:6 NIV6The people expected him to swell up or…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 20 2011,04:13)Rules:A debate for WJ and myself, which can be opened up upon any one person declining or ending the debate. Otherwise it is T8 & WJ only.=======================================WJ, your doctrine of the triune God should mean that you and other Trinitarians call God “THEM” and “THEY”. The reason of course is that when…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,19:23)Keith, Mike is to human as God is to spirit.Good MikeNow follow it through….If Keith and Mike is to human as God is to Spirit then that means that Gods Spirit is God just as our flesh is human.You say Jesus is a Spirit being like the Father I agree that the Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of God. But are you…[Read more]

Hi allMike trys to make a comparison against the evidence in the 1000s of MSS.Here is what he said in another thread…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,18:32)Here's what you have on your side of this:1.  There has yet to be found (at least admittedly) a ms that doesn't say, “the Father, Son and Holy Spirit”.2.  The scripture, as is, could be u…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 11 2011,14:07)Keith said:Quote PeirreI trust the scriptures as being the inspired word of God, all of them, and you don't!Who is the Pagan?WJKeith,Before we're done they will ALL be denying the authenticity of scriptures. They will show their true colors to the mega number of readers who read this board every…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 11 2011,14:50)Mike said:Quote I also admit that the word “god” in reference to Deborah can mean SHE is the True God.Let's see here… Deborah is the true God and satan is “the God” (ho theos) and Jesus is a god.Paul (Is. 1:18) had it right when he said:“It's a race to the bottom when it comes to the Arian…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,20:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2011,13:51)Mike has admitted that the word “theos” or God when referring to Jesus could mean he is God Almighty!Not quite Keith.  What I said is that someone being called by the title “elohim” does not automatically mean they are NOT God Almighty.  This should be evident f…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:58)You're welcome Jack.    I also admit that the word “god” in reference to Deborah can mean SHE is the True God.Whats this? “..the word “god” in reference to Deborah can mean SHE is the True God”Yet now you go back on your words and say Jesus is not “The true god” though he sits in the Throne of God ruling as G…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2011,16:32)That shows that your understanding in this matter is wrong or incomplete. Because you fail to explain why men and angels are also called by the same title.t8 But Jesus is unlike any other because he is the “Only Begotten (Monogenes) Son.The Father, and the Holy Spirit only are the Godkind!You have yet to show us how…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2011,21:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,16:24)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,21:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,03:42)JackI wonder if Mike got his material from Watchtower again?  WJEqually KJ might have got his stuff from the Vatican.After all the Catholic faith is the Trinity doctrine.The Cathoilic…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,21:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,20:24)Is it GRAMMATICALLY POSSIBLE to translate the Greek words in John 1:1c into English as “and the Word was a god”?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,16:31)NOBecause John was not a Polytheist and the Bible is not a Polytheistic book.But Keith, let me remind you once…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,21:17)Listen closely:  I'm not asking for the “probability” that it should vs. shouldn't be added.  I'm asking if, BASED ONLY ON THOSE WORDS IN THAT ORDER, it is a GRAMMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY.Again, NO!Until you have the credentials and expertise to show me how it could be grammatically possible then you are just b…[Read more]