Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2011,21:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2011,10:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,19:22)Keith, You and Jack had a little trouble understanding me.  Perhaps I posted above your intelligence level?What kind of education do you have Mike? Where is your credentials?  WJWhere are yours?  I at least know when one is sp…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2011,21:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2011,10:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,19:22)Which one is it………#1 or #2?  Because, like I said before, Jesus doesn't say, “If you've seen me, you've seen GOD”.Hey JackMan he doesn't get it does he? Who does he think Thomas is asking about? The Father = God.Mike…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2011,17:11)Ok Keith, I thought that is what was meant.  So the 'everything' pertains to nature only, right?KathiHi KathiNature, qualities, attributes, being, essence, substance, Yes.The essence of God (or that which distinguishes God from creation) is “Eternal”.Jesus is “…the radiance of His glory and the exact…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2011,16:53)Was the theos in 1:1b the Heavenly Father?KathiNo. But being a Father has nothing to do with being human in nature. I am everything in nature my Father was and is, “man”.Jesus in nature is everything the Father is, “God”.“In the beginning was the man and the man was with man and the man was man”.  WJ

kathiI have to go but will discuss this later. You have some good questions. WJ

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 24 2011,13:15)And what about the Coptic rendering of 1:18? It reads, “God the Only Son.” This destroys the your claim that the indefinite in 1:1c in the Coptic must mean what you mean by it. It may mean “a God” (qualitatively with a capital “G”) and not necessarily a lesser god qualitatively .”Exactly, in fact it…[Read more]

The big qustion is, “What definition of the word “beget” applies to Jesus?” “Did God procreate Jesus at some “time” in eternity or was he “eternally the begotten Son?” WJ

Okay.Do those scriptures to you mean he was born or created?WJ

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 24 2011,14:34)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 25 2011,03:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2011,15:01)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 23 2011,09:41)I had asked WJ once if and they do believe that the Holy Spirit is a person, then He must be the Father of Jesus.Wonderful point, Irene!  WJ answered Irene's point a zillion times befoe Mike even…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2011,13:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2011,09:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2011,00:17)Quote “In the beginning was Cain, and Cain was with Adam, and Cain was Adam.”Uggg! Is this going to go on and on because this is not a perfect comparison because the word 'adam' is not the english word for man and this sentence…[Read more]

Hi AllHere is more information about the “tripart model” of  Matthew 28:19 of which I agree and is my understanding of the verse, emphasis mine…The Society (Jehovah Witnesses) references about four passages in the New Testament where the three persons of the Trinity are manifested: 2 Corinthians 13:13-14; 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; Matthew 3:16 and…[Read more]

Hey MikeI have another question for you.According to the testimony of the scholars is it grammatically “correct” to translate John 1:1c as “a god”?If it is not “grammatically correct” then how can it be grammatically possible? Surely you can do better than just one mans testimony. WJ

Hi ALLThe following is an excerpt taken from the statement Mantey wrote in response to the Society’s translation:“Since my name is used and our Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament is quoted on page 744 to seek to justify their translation I am making this statement. The translation suggested in our Grammar for the disputed passage is, ‘th…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,21:03)The “GRAMMAR” he refers to in this quote is the ENGLISH GRAMMAR he himself used in his book, and has nothing to do with the Greek grammar of John 1:1.Man you are desperate because you are making things up now.The “grammar” that he is talking about is his “Greek Grammar” that he discusses in his book…“A…[Read more]

BTW T8Can you also delete the (brackets) in the answers?WJ

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 24 2011,11:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2011,15:01)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 23 2011,09:41)I had asked WJ once if and they do believe that the Holy Spirit is a person, then He must be the Father of Jesus.Wonderful point, Irene!  WJ answered Irene's point a zillion times befoe Mike even came here. So Irene should have…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 24 2011,11:15)Mike wrote:Quote There are also other English translators that render the Coptic of 1:1 as “a god”, but do we really need more than good old Bentley?Mike, You did not pay attention. The “a god” reading in the Coptics does not necessarily infer a lesser god because it may be about QUALITY rather than…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,19:22)Keith, You and Jack had a little trouble understanding me.  Perhaps I posted above your intelligence level?What kind of education do you have Mike? Where is your credentials?  WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,19:22)Which one is it………#1 or #2?  Because, like I said before, Jesus doesn't say, “If you've seen me, you've seen GOD”.Hey JackMan he doesn't get it does he? Who does he think Thomas is asking about? The Father = God.Mike says…“Jesus doesn't say, “If you've seen me, you've seen GOD”  Then who did he see?  …[Read more]

Jack Marty is right. We shouldn't continue this conversation with him because it is useless to talk about scriptures when someone denys that some of them are inspired.WJ