Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,15:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,14:15)KathiI find it amazing that like Mike you also use “Trinitarian” quotes to prove the opposite of their conclusions.Not everything Satan says is a lie, is it Keith?  Can we help it if the Trinitarians start off speaking scriptural truths that we can agree with, but…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,12:30)Good post.  Keith also always seems to forget that our “only true God” is the Father.  So if he wants to take it literally, he must accept that Jesus is not a “true god” at all.  Because there's no way to work “the Father AND I” into John 17:3 or 1 Cor 8:6.MikeWhat do you mean by taking it literally? Don't yo…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 27 2011,11:48)Galatians 4:14and even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself.Mike, Its obvious Paul seperated the two statements. He emphasizes how they treated him as if he was an Angel…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,10:49)Keith, does calling a vice regent of God a “god” promote polytheism?  YES or NO?MikeThe answer is “YES”. Do you know why I know this? It is because there is not one single example of a follower of YHVH calling any being “their” God or god, is there?That means that to them they are not gods and if they were…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2011,00:00)I believe He existed within the Father before He was begotten from the Father.Was he alive as the Son, the Word with the Father from eternity?WJ

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2011,22:38)Keith and Mark,Read this and see:Quote The terms “unbegotten” and “begotten” are interchangeable with the terms Father and Son. This follows from the relation of a substantive to its adjective. In whatever sense a substantive is employed, in the same sense must the adjective formed from it be employed. Consequ…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2011,22:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,16:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2011,10:37)I don't think that the Father is ever without the Son but I think that the Son was not always being 'shone.'Hi KathiGod is eternal and infinite and his Glory has always been radiant because the scriptures tell us he changes…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2011,22:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,17:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,16:26)Am I scripturally wrong in saying that Jesus is the only begotten god and the Father is the only unbegotten God?MikeYep, because that would be “two true gods” with each other and we know there is “Only One True God” and none…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 27 2011,11:33)The reason John could not say “the logos is God” is because the logos changed, God did not.That must be considered in examining this issue.Hi PallidinBut if the Logos was God and it changed then God changed right?Isn't Gods word ” immutable” like God (the Word was God)?Did the Word which was God change? Could it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 26 2011,17:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,09:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,16:26)Am I scripturally wrong in saying that Jesus is the only begotten god and the Father is the only unbegotten God?MikeYep, because that would be “two true gods” with each other and we know there is “Only One True God” and none…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,18:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,18:02)Remember, “CORRECT” is not the same as “POSSIBLE”.  “CORRECT” is a matter of OPINION.Tell me Mike how it can be “grammatically possible” for an honest man to translate the scripture “incorrectly”?WJWho's to say the “a” is the…[Read more]

Why don't you ever answer my quesitons Mike?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,17:57)Show me SCRIPTURALLY how we are brothers of God Himself.I have explained myself Mike. God can be like a brother to us can't he?What about him being “our blood relative redeemer”?You say Jesus is not a human so who has put their foot in their mouth?How can Jesus be your brother if he is not human?God can be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,18:02)I acknowledge that they are entitled to THEIR OWN OPINIONS, just as you and I are.  I'm trying to show that their OPINIONS are based on falsehoods and not scriptures.What you have acknowledged is you think you know more than 1000s of Biblical Hebrew and Greek scholars by accusing them of bias and teaching…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,18:02)Remember, “CORRECT” is not the same as “POSSIBLE”.  “CORRECT” is a matter of OPINION.Tell me Mike how it can be “grammatically possible” for an honest man to translate the scripture “incorrectly”?WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,17:49)If the grammatical fact is that it IS possible, then who really cares that as a Trinitarian, Mr. Harris doesn't PREFER that translation?MikeOh I see, so even if their final conclusion is the “correct” translation would be anarthrous (without the article) then you still don't care and reject the rest of their…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,17:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,16:43)When are you going to answer my questions MIke?WJAre you kidding me?  Which question haven't I answered?mikeMikeAre you kidding me? Ok here are all of them…Dr. Mantey stated…  “There is no statement in our “GRAMMAR” that was ever meant to imply that “a god” wa…[Read more]

When are you going to answer my questions MIke?WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,16:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,09:16)4 REASONS THE SOCIETY’S TRANSLATION OF JOHN 1:1 IS UNTENABLEKeith, Your post is senseless.  It's like me saying that since the Trinitarian scholars say Herod had the voice of “A god”, then they should use “A god” ever time “god” is mentioned.Do you see how lame th…[Read more]

MikeI see that but the definitions are different for “CAPITALISE” and “CAPITALIZE”, but I stand corrected.However he still had a grammatical error. I thought I would be just as lame as he was for calling KJ out. WJ