Quote Jn 8″ 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. “Jn 5″26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;” Hey Nick!Yes he was the Word but he was not the Son until he took on the form of…[Read more]

Quote Like any son of God Jesus had his own spirit which left him at death. His vessel was filled with the Spirit of God in the fulness of deity in the Jordan revealing the Father in every aspect to men. That Spirit of Christ was poured out filling his body on earth when he returned to God uniting them with him and also with the Father.If you say…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,The Father begat the Son.Ps 2″ 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”The Son was sent into the world.1jn 4″ 9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. The Scriptures…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Do you then understand the nature of God? You must be the only one who does.The rest of us sift through the evidence He has provided about His nature without adding presumptions and constructions like trinity to those verifiable facts, lest we offend the Almighty One.. hey Nick! You are the one the who is presuming. You are the one who…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,Why would you dispute with scripture?There is a Father God and He has a Son.The Father is the God of the Son.They are in a family relationship.The Spirit of the Gardener is indeed in the vine and in the branches so they work in unityHey Nick! Show me where I have said there is no Son?You yourself have said the Spirit of the Father is…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,God begat a Son in His divine image in the “beginning”, ie before time, and that Son, the Word was with God in the beginning and all that has life, all creation was made through that Son. Hey Nick!Show me where the Word is the Son in the beginning!Where is the scripture! “The Word was with God and the Word Was God”Not the Word was the…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Men have changed the scriptures from YHWH to Lord, and this has caused some men to confuse the almighty Lordship of God over all, including the Son, with the delegated Lordship from God of the Son as our Lord.Compare Joseph and the Pharaoh.Joseph was never Pharaoh but always under his authority.He was given complete authority to act in…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,God begat a Son in His divine image in the “beginning”, ie before time, and that Son, the Word was with God in the beginning and all that has life, all creation was made through that Son. Hey Nick! So the Word that created all things and by whom all things consist was created or had a beginning?Makes no sence to me!God through him didnt…[Read more]

Quote Jn 15″1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. “The plainest fact in the bible is that Jesus is the SON of God. Those who would say he is still part of a humanly fabricated so called trinity God deny that fact. Sons come from fathers. Since salvation is in the Son we should rather believe God on this matter.Hey Nick! Was the…[Read more]

Quote “The confusion is from the elevated traditions of men, not from the Word of God. A DEITY surely is a god that is worshiped. We are not worshipers of the vine we are part of but worship the Gardener just as he does. For us there is ONE GOD and Jesus is not that God but our LORD.Hey Nick! Ok you insist on going on with this argument despite t…[Read more]

Quote I have been reading the article about the Trinity/Nature of God and had a question as to how this verse fits with the teaching.ISAIAH 43:1010 “ You are My witnesses,” says the LORD,     “ And My servant whom I have chosen,     That you may know and believe Me,     And understand that I am He.     Before Me there was no God formed,    …[Read more]

Quote This subject already has a thread, but perhaps this subject is so large that it deserves two. Or perhaps not. Something I would like to add:JESUS HAS CO-RULERS, JOINT HEIRS OF THE KINGDOMDANIEL 7:18“But the holy ones of the Supreme One will receive the kingdom, and they will take possession of the kingdom for time indefinite, even for t…[Read more]

Quote David!All I can say is I will make mention of you in my prayers;That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of **wisdom and revelation** in the knowledge of him:The **eyes of your understanding being enlightened**; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory…[Read more]

Quote I guess that's the way a fleshly man would see it–fleshly.  A spiritual man sees spiritual thing.  A physical man sees the things of the flesh.  You seem to only see the flesh.  But you don't seem to be able to peice together that we are made of flesh and must carry flesh and physical things around in order to live and operate.  You need…[Read more]

Quote Hi WHi W.  Maybe I misunderstood your last post.  You quoted me and said it was hoopla.  And I had stated that we were the only group that could have left if we renounced our faith.  I thought this is what you were referring to as hoopla.  Maybe I misunderstood what the “hoopla” was you referred to.I guess my point if any was this: You’re l…[Read more]

Quote I'm sorry Worshipping Jesus, you failed to mention which other groups could have left if they signed a piece of paper renouncing their faith.  If it is I who have been decieved, show me the piece of paper that others could have signed.  Please do.david Hey David! Im sorry I dont know what you are talking about! I guess I dont understand t…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say I am deceived? Why do you say this? Do I not abide in the scriptures for you to say such things? If so I need to know where I am erring. Please tell me what I have said that is unscriptural. Hey Nick! I dont need to get in the discussion of the trinity with you, but as shure as you believe that I am in error for believing in a…[Read more]

Quote Imagine being with the Lord forever and in his perfect Kingdom, never crying, or feeling pain. Imagine only perfection. This is what awaits all who love God.Now imagine all that, but knowing that people perhaps even from your own family, screaming in pain forever in flames. While you live in this paradise, you know that people you knew even…[Read more]

Quote And I agree with your core premise, which is YHWH is not subject to the physical limitations of our time-space continuum….we are….He is not. Incidentally, Yahshua said in Matt 20:18 when two or three are gathered in His name He would be there….how many prayer meetings are held on Earth concurrently? I would say at least thousands, if…[Read more]

Quote Hey David! So are you saying that the Jehovahs witnesses are introducing a new religion and that many are rejecting it therefore are rejecting Jehovah and the true Church? I don't remember saying anything like that.  Please read it again W.dave Dont understand your point I guess! Sorry I refrain my question!Keith