Quote Before Abraham came to Christ IS. NH Abig amen also!

Quote Hi AP,Jesus was loved before he was conceived. He was beloved of God, not in prophecy but in fact. NH Amen!

Quote That, which, it; does not describe a personal living being!!!Sadly, so many people ignore the fact that 1 John 1:1-3 corresponds to what John meant in John 1:1-4If John meant by the term logos/word, some personal being, e.g. Jesus … would he not have said something like …Quote He who was from the beginning, who we have heard, who we have…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You say”I submit to you that only one equally substantive in nature to God could be that Eternal Life.”That is one possible explanation. But it is not written.But that thought is not derived from divine wisdom but human wisdom.What is written is that the Son IS life. ETERNAL LIFE IS IN the Son. What is this but just a play on words…[Read more]

m42 You say…Quote Rather then continue in pointless debate on subjects of Greek language, I prefer to talk about the functionality of the Doctrine. Again I ask you what is the functionality of the Trinity, Dual nature of Christ or the interpretation of John 1 to be Christ. In what way do these concepts draw me cloaer to Christ or make it…[Read more]

Quote The Lord has been showing me how self centered I am. I've always worked at having patience, generosity, putting others first, praying for others, caring for others, etc… but the Lord has shown me I've only been emulating the outward signs of true Godliness. To go the next step I need to die to self in a way beyond what I've been doing…[Read more]

Quote I wholeheartedly agree, but I feel the best way to develop this unity for us is by drawing closer to the Father. Until we do we will be focus on ourselves and see everything through our understanding, where as by Love (the kind God supplies) we will judge all things by our concern for others, giving preference in all things. Scripture is…[Read more]

Quote BTW, The same goes for Jesus Christ!Before birth he was no one's son.However he was foreknown!(1 Pet 1:20)  Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,('Foreordained', Same Greek word as 'foreknew' in Rom 8.29!)Oxy, Can you therefore see why I don't believe that Christ…[Read more]

I agree with Oxy and Is 1:18.The baptism of Jesus at the Jordan was a confirmation of who he was and not a change of his nature or taking on of divinity. He already was divinty in the flesh.Matt 3:11] I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall…[Read more]

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Quote Rather then continue in pointless debate on subjects of Greek language, I prefer to talk about the functionality of the Doctrine. Again I ask you what is the functionality of the Trinity, Dual nature of Christ or the interpretation of John 1 to be Christ. In what way do these concepts draw me cloaer to Christ or make it possible for me to be…[Read more]

Quote think that the author John Bland does a very good dieeertation of John 1Personally, I believe the best place to start as we examine the theology of pre-existence is with the gospel according to John. No other historian of Jesus alludes to the theme of “pre-existence” nearly to the extent that John does. Consequently, much of the theology…[Read more]

Quote think that the author John Bland does a very good dieeertation of John 1Personally, I believe the best place to start as we examine the theology of pre-existence is with the gospel according to John. No other historian of Jesus alludes to the theme of “pre-existence” nearly to the extent that John does. Consequently, much of the theology…[Read more]

Quote In a word No. I do not believe Jesus existed before His birth. The plan for a Messiah and human heir to the thrown was in the heart and mind of God but not literally Jesus.I think the problem with the interpretation of “sent” is in that some use Greek thinking and taking a literal Eastern approach to the word. Secondly the deffinition of the…[Read more]

Quote He is the “only begotten son of God” Begotten meaning born.(like the rest of humanity)Music4twoReally. Was your mother a virgin? Were you concieved by the Hody Ghost?

Quote Posted: Nov. 25 2006,12:10  ——————————————————————————–The following verses indicate that Christ is both Lord and God.Joh 20:26  And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be u…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,God is one with His own Spirit just as we are one with our spirit. His Son became one with Him. NH My Spirit man is the real me that lives in a body.I am a Spirit who has a soul who lives in a Body. My Spirit man was born of his Spirit when I was born again. If any man be in Christ he is a New creation. Now I am the Lords.They that are…[Read more]

Quote There is for us one God and we who are in His Son worship him with the help of His Spirit.And by the way Nick why would God use something else other than he himself to help worship him?

Quote Hi W,There is for us one God and we who are in His Son worship him with the help of His Spirit.You need to focus on having one God the Father.Build on that, not sand.Jn 8.5454Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:1Cor 86But to us there is but one God,…[Read more]

NHThe Problem is you say that the trinitarian perspective divides God.But I believe that your perspective divides him. God The creater has always been plural and yet one.Without slamming you with a bunch of scriptures You know there are many scriptures that support this.And we can continue going in circles forever and get no where. This debate has…[Read more]