Quote Hi W,You say”Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit as a person.”So you derive from this that the Spirit must be a person??We do not derive truths from scripture.We find them taught there.What you have derived is not taught, and opposes what is taught – God sends His Spirit. NHThe word derive means….1 a : to take, receive, or obtain especially f…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You must not go beyond revelation.God is the creator,through Christ. Hi W,Again you want to rush beyond revelation to proclaim deductions from scripture as fact.Scripture says clearly;God is the Father.Jesus is the Son of God Those facts alone do not allow for any trinity theory to be valid.Ps 2 shows us the begettal of the unique Son…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,Where does scripture say the Spirit of God is not the Spirit of God but another person?I missed it.Why is blasphemy against the Spirit more serious than against Jesus?If there are three persons in God which person is the physical father of Jesus?Matt 1″ 18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You ask”You say this but do you believe Jesus is God?”Jesus is not the God of the bible, which is our source of truth.He is the Son of that God.No confusion there..His divine origins do not make him his own father. ————–Divine origins! What does that mean to you NH?You are not being honest with yourself NH, you know that you…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You say”God The creater has always been plural and yet one.”No.That is trinityspeak confusion.God alone is the creator.All creation comes through His Son.Jn 1″ 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” NHSo you agree, God – the Father and the Son created all things?

Quote WJ,You asked was Jesus born of a woman. What do the scriptures say.But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, (Gal 4:4). SultanYou figure it out my friend.:)

Quote I was just quoting Jesus. Do you disagree with the scripture? SultanI was just quoting John and Jesus do you believe the scriptures?

Quote Hi All:I like WJ believe my spirit (personality or character) is my person.  I like God have a soul made up of a mind, a free will, and emotions.  When I confessed Jesus as Lord, my soul became subjected to God through him.  My Father by His Spirit has taught me His word from the example of life of my Lord Jesus.  God has corrected me man…[Read more]

Quote If you were a spirit you would not speak of “my spirit”, but “I” or “me” NHYou know I have heard you speak about others building on a solid foundation.It looks like to me you need to go back and examine you foundation, for this is a foundational truth NH..You say….Quote If you were a spirit you would not speak of “my spirit”, but “I” or…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,1Jn 2″25And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. “Eternal life for us is a PROMISE, to do with our future. It starts now. So how can you say it proves Christ has had no beginning when ETERNAL is applied to him? NHYou really like closing your eyes and ears to the truth NH.

Quote Hi W,Do you really think the Son of God works on his own initiative and saves us outside of the will and authorty of His Father? If so you have never grasped the unity between the Father and the Son. NHNo because that is impossible. They are of the same Godhead!Blessings

Quote Hi w,You say”The Problem is you say that the trinitarian perspective divides God.”No the trinity alters completely the nature of GodJesus told us God was the Father. That should be the end of all arguments. NH Why do you selectively quote just part of my Post!Here Ill post it for you!NHThe Problem is you say that the trinitarian perspective…[Read more]

Quote thought I would bump this since no one else replied. I would like to hear an explination from someone who believes the Trinity. Ok looked it up. Looks like a man made view to me.But I love the way NH throws all trinitarian views in the same basket!!LOL One day God will come blasting through his understanding and the light will flood his…[Read more]

Quote thought I would bump this since no one else replied. I would like to hear an explination from someone who believes the Trinity. Hi SsottWhere do you find the word eternally generated?

Quote Hi w,Joseph was made LORD under PharaohGen 40″38And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is? 39And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art: 40Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall…[Read more]

Quote Trinity “logic” looks at both God and His subjected Son, the Lord being called SAVIOUR and then says”AH HA”Jesus must be God!! But that also he must be his own father?? NH One with the Father. God=Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, these three are One!

Quote Hi W,Trinity “logic” looks at both God and His subjected Son, the Lord being called SAVIOUR and then says”AH HA”Jesus must be God!! But that also he must be his own father?? NHYou didnt answer the question!NHExactly my point, why would God need another Saviour.So according to Hsa 13:4Yet I the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Number 166Transliteration:aionios {ahee-o'-nee-os} Word Origin:from 165TDNT:1:208,31Part of Speech:adjectiveUsage in the KJV:eternal 42, everlasting 25, the world began 5550 2, since the world began 5550 1, for ever 1Total: 71Definition:without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be without beginning without…[Read more]

Quote So do we need to be saved twice?Do we need two saviours?Nonsense.NHExactly my point, why would God need another Saviour.So according to Hsa 13:4Yet I the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for no saviour beside me.”and1tim 1″ 1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,ETERNAL is not necessarily a retrospective term.If it was… then when we are given eternal life, we must have already have had it. NHThe word for Eternal is aionios, which means1) without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be2) without beginning3) without end, never to cease, everlastingDo you accept that? We…[Read more]