Quote Hi W,You say”The reason you don’t see the Holy Spirit is Obvious, the Spirit is invisible and the Spirit was in Stephen testifying of our Lord Jesus. The ministry of the Holy Spirit is primarily to testify of Jesus.”So the Holy Spirit is not in heaven?Are you speaking of the Spirit of God here or the Spirit of Christ?Is God i…[Read more]

Quote We will also be like Christ and Christ is like God.In fact Jesus is the image of the invisible God. He is the image.He is not the God that he is reflecting and declaring.HE IS THE IMAGE OF GOD.We are MADE in the image of God.We are the bride, he is the bridegroom.BTW: We are not marrying God, rather the son of God.It is even written that no…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say”Hes not above the Father, nor is he below the Father, But he is at the Right Hand of God.”And then”Hes at the Fathers Right Hand, a metaphor of the highest position there is with the Father.”You quote”Acts 7:54 YLTAnd hearing these things, they were cut to the hearts, and did gnash the teeth at him; 7:55 and being full of the…[Read more]

Hi 94Thanks again for your reponse!Still have a few questions though.You say…Quote Yes, at this point I have made up my mind that the “Trinity doctrine” is a misunderstanding of scripture because I have studied the scriptures, and I have read what others had to say relative to this doctrine, and I have prayed asking God to show me if this d…[Read more]

Quote There is not need to look any further to try to determine who Jesus is.  God has revealed this plainly to us by this scripture.  He is not GOD THE SON, but HE IS THE CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.  End of this discussion, lest we make God and Jesus liars.  Because Jesus did not say that He was God otherwise He would be condradicting who…[Read more]

Quote Hi WJ:I have read and digested all that you wrote relative to your beliefs about the “trinity”, but I believe that this doctrine is a misunderstanding of scripture.You say, “Also I cannot prove to you the Trinitarian view by quoting scripture.  In fact any one who says that they fully understand the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit is not…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,From the Living God, through Christ, essentially, Yes.  Especially, if you hold that Jesus is God! Again, after all, how can the head be a different species from the body? Or the groom from the bride?  Or the chief corner stone from the living stones…. yeah I know…. But these are the facts, my friend.  Mar 12:10   And have ye not…[Read more]

Quote Posted: Dec. 08 2006,04:22  ——————————————————————————–First, some of the ones on here instead of discussing scripture, find it so much easier to dismiss something someone says based on who they are.  To me, this only seems to indicate that they really don't have any position to stand o…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say about the Son of God”Nevertheless he is at this moment the King of Glory, the resurrected Lord of Glory and is on the Right Hand of God.”I agree.So where did this idea of trinity come from? NHWhy dont you show some intellegence here?You have never heard anyone here that holds a trinitarian view deny the Son!So why do you keep…[Read more]

Hi APThanks for responding!You say…Quote For what it's worth, you could compare I have. But no sir, I don’t see anyone here falling down as one dead! The Glory of the latter house is greater than the former.Old and New Covenants. Earthly King. Heavenly king. You say…. Quote Oh BTW, Rev 1.8 is talking about Almighty GOD, the Father; NOT Jesus His…[Read more]

Rabbit trails!Rather than answer the questions, lets just run down another trail!

LOLNHNow you say Im blind? You dont know my heart NH.Do you have a coin on all truthWhy do you judge me so?

Quote Hi w,You say”Looks like the trinity to me.”Inference never stands up to testing as good evidence.You will see what you are looking for till the Spirit sets you free and shows you truth. NHYou just described the trinity with your own words and then you say I need to be set free.

Quote Hi W,If you are not in him yet you should be. So you are in the Father and you share his deity?

Quote Hi W,The question only has relevance if God's Spirit is divided. It is not.Matthew 12:25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand1 Corinthians 1:13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye…[Read more]

Quote Will you be enthroned there with him?NH I dont think I will be sharing his deity, do you?

Quote Hi W,Jesus walked the earth, and from the Jordan, God as Spirit in him. And God will return in the vessel of His Son to rule.Zech 14″ 3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east,…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Of course the Spirit of Christ, which proceeds from the Father, speaks of Christ, who proceeded from God using his eternal words of life.The Son PROCEEDED fromand CAME FROM GodJohn 8:42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.BUT…[Read more]

Quote HiW,Really?In the mouth of which of God's anointed teachers do we find these teachings? NHThe Father Son and Holy Spirit did walk on the earth did they not?The Son Jesus, the Father that was in him and the Holy Spirit that came upon him at Jordan.

Quote Hi CB,Trinity used to be a binity and was devised under the “gentle guidance” of a Roman Emperor, the ultimate adultery of the apostate body of Christ with the world. Is this the latest version of God as a trinity or can we await new developments? NHTrinitarian view was found during the days of Christ when The Father, the Son and the Holy…[Read more]