Quote Hi W,You should not speak of Jesus as just a man. He was with God as the Word in the beginning and his begettal as the Son of God was in the beginning, not just as the Son of God and Mary on earth. If he wasnt a man also NH then he couldnt be our Savior!Isa 43:11I, even I, am the LORD; and ***beside me there is no saviour***. Isa 45:21Tell…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say”Jesus was the Word that was with God who became flesh and was born the Son.”But scripture speaks of a Father who snds his beloved Son into his vineyard and in 1Jn 4″ 9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10Herein is love, not…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Ps 2 speaks of the revolt of the earthly kings at the end of the 1000yr reignRev 201And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the…[Read more]

Quote I don't know anyone on here that labels their self as an Arian.  There are people on here who label their self as Trinitarians. SscottI dont label myself anything except being a Born again child of God.I believe the trinitarian view best describes the Godhead in light of all scripture. But there may be, and Im sure ther is some trinitarians…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,”Arians”?? I have a new name for your following! ***Dualtarians***

Quote Quote  Hi W,Ps 2″ 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.” NHMonogenes does not mean created or begining!NHBesides Pss 2 in its context shows that the sons begettal was after his being enthroned. 6] Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.7 I will declare the decree:…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,That is an opinion. Can you substantiate it?He was bornthen begotten?But the Monogenes Son was sent into the world NHJesus was the Word that was with God who became flesh and was born the Son.Matt 120 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear…[Read more]

Quote Labels come in so handy.  By labeling others one no longer has to try to understand their view or search the scriptures. SscottThen why didnt you say something like this to the Arians for their constant use of the label Trinitarian?

Quote Hi W,Quite so.Monogenes has a special meaning but Ps 2 does not use Monogenes but speaks of the begettal of the Monogenes son. NHThat was a prophesy for the Son, he wasnt the Son yet. He was born and then begotten!

Quote “The everlasting Father, “Is Jesus the Everlasting Father Cult Buster?Yes or No will do. SscottWhy not.I Cor 4:15-17For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have **begotten** you through the gospel.Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.For this cause have I sent unto…[Read more]

Quote Hi W.  I didn't anywhere say that everything Catholics believe are wrong because they are Catholics.  They most definitely do believe in the trinity.  Yet isn't it interesting that they have to acknowledge these things.  You say that the trinity is taught in scripture.  BUt history I believe acknowledges that it took a couple hundred year…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Ps 2″ 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.” NHMonogenes does not mean created or begining!

Quote Posted: Dec. 11 2006,11:54  ——————————————————————————–sscott.I have considered those verses and to be honest they do not prove your point.“for I proceeded forth and came from God;”“I came out from God.””I came out from thee.”I believe that you are reading something that isn’t there…[Read more]

Quote Nah, W. Because the Father sent him.Deut 18:15f and John 3:15fDeu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak…[Read more]

Quote Yes.There is God who is.There is creation, i.e., that which is made by God through Christ.There is that which is begotten of God and not made through Christ.There is only one begotten of the Father who is full of grace and truth. He is the firstborn over all creation and the express image of God. He has preeminence in all things. t8 So I…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Do you know of any sons who did not have a beginning? NH Prove to me by scriptures that Jesus the Word had a begining!

Quote To WorshippingJesus.If you believe the following, then why do oppose it?It is written that God created all things through Christ.It is written that the head of the woman is man, the head of the man is Christ, and head of Christ is God. i.e., God > Christ > ManIt is written that there is one mediator between God and Man.It is written that…[Read more]

Quote Posted: Dec. 11 2006,01:23  ——————————————————————————–To WorshippingJesus.Trinitarians and Arians argued to sides of a question that was set up by Greek philosophy as they believed in created and non-created.So the inevitable question that arose and was argued by Athanasius and Arius was…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,You say”The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost preseint at creation of all things, always was and is God the creator.”You continue to be a mouthpiece for men, not the Word of God. And I think you also should speak the words of God and not men. Do you know him NH?

Quote Hi W,You quote”How long have I been with you that you do not know me Philip?Jn 14:67] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.Two beings.His beginning?Ps 2″ 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. ” And the…[Read more]