Quote Ok..no problem.Col. 1 states:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Then where is your trinity on the throne? NH“You should read scripture with an open mind and heart and let it teach you'.

Quote Yes.. at the time of John 1:1 the word was WITH God.  Though at some point He was brought forth from the Father. Hi SscottProceding from God dosnt mean having his beginning or origin from God.Jn 8:42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I **proceeded forth** and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he…[Read more]

Quote Quote  Notice its says Jesus will deliver up the Kingdom, and he will be subject to the Father.  Yes.  I noticed that.  It was the point I was making.  When you are subject to someone you are not really equal with that one.  At least, not equal in rank or position.  I guess you and others argue that they are equal in essence or being, whatev…[Read more]

Quote Yes. The Father forsaking the Son on the cross is a huge problem for the Trinity Doctrine. The Trinity Doctrine states that God is One Being yet made of Three Distinct Persons. If one of the members of the Trinity is not there then you do not have God because God is one which is made up of Three.Jesus was made sin for us. The Father…[Read more]

Quote Yes.  The Father forsaking the Son on the cross is a huge problem for the Trinity Doctrine.  The Trinity Doctrine states that God is One Being yet made of Three Distinct Persons.BTW Trinitarians have presented some real problems for the unitarians which have been ignored also.Like for instance the person of the Holy Spirit.Incidently we b…[Read more]

Quote Yes.  The Father forsaking the Son on the cross is a huge problem for the Trinity Doctrine.  The Trinity Doctrine states that God is One Being yet made of Three Distinct Persons.  If one of the members of the Trinity is not there then you do not have God because God is one which is made up of Three.Jesus was made sin for us.  The Father pou…[Read more]

Quote Finally, from Genesis… certainly Deuteronomy, I was told to expect a messiah (prophet, servant) of God.  Not God himself in the form of a man. CubesIsnt that what the Saducees and Pharisees looked for, and did they not miss the Messiah?Tell me does Genesis and Deutoronomy show that the Messiah would die and rise from the dead and be…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,You say”BTW NH There are three beings in the Godhead.”Really?Three gods? One = God Father, Son And Holy Spirit.You know what I believe NH. So why do you ask?Respond if you will but I wont trace your rabbit trail.”Why should we make God work according to the rules of our understanding?””You should read scripture with an open mind and…[Read more]

Quote Ok, so we agree that they differ in rank.1 cor 15:28 agrees saying that the son will be “subject” to his Father, God Almighty.You say that he and his father are equal in authority.  Yet, if Jesus is “subject” to his father, how are they equal in authority?Please address this, because it confuses me.DavidJn 5:But Jesus answered them, My…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,Correct me if I am wrong but your claim is that he always had such powers and was not given them. You speak only of one eternal being imbued with power and authority called God. You do not accept there were two beings but only one. Why would God need to be given power and authority?How can God give God power and authority?How can God be…[Read more]

Quote Hi W”II Tim 2:15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. or this..Acts 17:11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. So what part…[Read more]

Quote Hi w,Theology is vanity and of man.The fruit of natural minds attempting the impossible.Only the Spirit can take us intoi the mind of God.NHSo what does this scripture mean to you…II Tim 2:15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. or this..Acts 17:11These were…[Read more]

Quote Hi m42,Theology is death.Let the dead bury the dead.Lets all continue to feed on the bread of life. NHWhat do you mean “theology is death”.Miriam Webster Says…theology…. the study of religious faith, practice, and experience; especially : the study of God and of God's relation to the world

Quote Did you guys only scan my article?  Did you miss this?I have saved the most important lesson of all for last. BE LED OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD. Prayerfully seek God’s guidance in understanding. The most important reason for study is to have our hearts and character molded to be like Jesus. We do not seek to have only head knowledge but a li…[Read more]

Quote amen w Thank you NH.Coming from you. I must be making some progress.

M42Excellent Post!The only thing I would add is that all the study of the scriptures in the world by the human intellect without the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit leaves you with nothing but the dead letter of the scriptures.Only the Spirit of truth can enlighten the scriptures to our minds.This is why so many having the same scriptures…[Read more]

Quote The highest position in the universe is not “sitting at someone's right hand.”  It is the one who doesn't need a reference point.  Jesus is in a position of power because he sits at his Father's right hand.  If I have someone who is my right hand guy, that doesn't mean we are equal in power.  It means he is second to me, the guy I use for…[Read more]

Quote Let me play the part of God for a moment. Here are God's WORDS for you —“Black over house relish plant cherub window coffee navy calendar picture overstuffed diminsion whacko toy truck.Now you are required to obey God's word. What do you do?God is waiting. What is the problem?It is not the method in which God communicates but rather the…[Read more]

Quote Posted: Dec. 14 2006,02:43  ——————————————————————————–Some say that “word” (logos) cannot be equated with the plan of God. Consider these verses—Acts 8: 4 and 54Therefore, those who had been scattered went about preaching the word. 5Philip went down to the city of Samaria and bega…[Read more]