Quote Hi david,We know that God and His servants have all said this,but, nudge nudge, wink wink, the theologians know none of them really meant that. NHNudge Nudge, wink wink. No trinitarian denys the Sonship of Jesus. You know this!So you can come down off your high horse and stop making these kind of foolish accusations.Do you find this being…[Read more]

Quote Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This the heritage of the…[Read more]

Quote WJ, my point is that: “that's all you have.” and you made that point beautifully.  I had said that the scriptures on your side, are for some reason all ambiguous in the way you are using them.  When the Bible speaks of Jehovah or the Father being God, there is no question what it is saying.  You picked 10 scriptures, which I must assume yo…[Read more]

Quote And you're right that Yahshua isn't a false god.  The word “god” truly fits him in every way.  So he isn't a false god.DavidNWT Says Jesus is a God! Polotheism is Idolatry!

Quote Thankyou for making my point for me.david Is that all you have!

Quote Haven't you noticed that all of the scriptures you use are like this?DavidAre they?Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the…[Read more]

David You say….Quote Haven't you noticed that it's odd that all the scriptures like this can be taken in more than one way?  This verse is speaking of the true one and of Jesus.  They aren't the same because Jesus is called the son of the true one here.  This whole verse and the ones before it center on who the true one is, and yes, Jesus is me…[Read more]

Quote You're right.  We should not worship false gods.And you're right that Yahshua isn't a false god.  The word “god” truly fits him in every way.  So he isn't a false god.But nowhere are we told to worship him.  And nor does the fact that he's not a false god make him the Almighty, the only true God.Is 1:18, I'd like your take on the word God…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,If you came to us and told us that from now on you were going to be totally united with your finger you would get some bored yawns. Of course you are and that is how God relates to His finger.But not how he relates to His Son. They have real unity because they are two beings working together as one. NHYour use of term “the finger of…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,God is the father of Jesus and we worship Him in Spirit and truth. Should we rather worship all who are called gods? NHIf the Father says so!

Quote It seems”as well as” is the commonest use.I agree the Son must be honoured as well as the Father he is a vessel for. NH LOLThe word “even as”  is interpreted 1 time in the bible “as well as”.Kathos1) according asa) just as, even asb) in proportion as, in the degree that2) since, seeing that, agreeably to the fact that3) when, after thatAV -…[Read more]

HiHonourJn 5:23That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. The question is how much do you honour the Father?Do you honour the Father enough to worship him?The Greek word for honour is timao, which means; 1) to estimate, fix the valuea) for the…[Read more]

Quote Is it okay if I consider this the only safe chat room to go to? Hi Ciara10622 Of course until you mention. “Father, Son and Holy Spirit as one!

Quote Hi,The Son was not sent into new and perfect flesh but sent IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH.Romans 8:3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:NHRomans 8:3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,He said it. If you do not agree with him why not correct himrather than supporting his words ON PRINCIPLE? NH Read it again he didnt say anything of the sort.

Quote Hi Oxy,At least scripture does.But God is a being with three beings in Him?? NHYou know your accusation here is not true. You know that Oxy or no trinitarian believes that God is a Person with three persons in himself. Does your heart ##### you at all for this!

CharityI Cor 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.3 And though I…[Read more]

Quote Sin is two things. First, it is the state that we are all born in, ie, seperation from God. Secondly, sin is the act of doing or thinking (intentionally) something that is against righteousness. OxyAmen!

Quote NHWho said superman. Are we not supposed to do the works that he did through the Spirit.The difference is that Jesus is the Lord from heaven.Can we go around forgiving sins? No.Can we go around recieveing worship? NoCan we claim to raise ourselves from the dead? NoCan we claim to be the Bread of life? NoCan we claim to be the Ressurection…[Read more]

Quote Hi W,So Christ did the works through the Spirit?I agree.He did not do works in his own power as he had emptied himself.If the Spirit is the source of the power of God ,Who to you is a trinity, then is the Father powerless?Of course if the Spirit is of God and not another person then there is no problem NHLook again. The claims Jesus made…[Read more]