Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 27 2007,17:12)WJ wrote:Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.No. The Father and Jesus sent “Another…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:58)Does God have a spirit?Does Christ have a spirit?Do we have a spirit?The answer is yes all 3 of the above have a spirit or are spiritSo how then can God and Christ be one and one with us and we with each other.By our spirits of course.Romans 8:16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 27 2007,13:15)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:36)Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:30)If only TWO in us……..why not THREE?  I tell ya, the Holy Ghost always gets what Patty shot at!  The Comforter, IMO, is neither the personal Spirit of the Father nor Son….happy to give my reasonings if requested.Hi Is 1:18,I would l…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:42)It isn't pathetic.It is the only way that you can reconcile your doctrine (that God is 3 persons and one substance) while praying to one God. Think about it. I am saying the obvious.t8No you think about the scriptures that declare Jesus and the Spirit God, One with the Father.”ONE SPIRIT” ONE GOD.I address your…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2007,20:33)In answer to your question I will clarify the scriptures above as follows…If I use the word “God” in my prayer, I am refering to One God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.Yay, the answer was in there.So as I said earlier, you pray to God using singular language because…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:26)Do you mean to say that if we are praying to the Father we tack on, “In Jesus name.”  If we are praying to the Son we tack on, “In the name of the Father.”  And if we are praying to the Holy Spirit we tack on, “?”not3in1Im saying that simply tacking on a name in prayer means nothing if we are not in him.

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 27 2007,06:16)I asked these questions of you, because I have been in services where they begin with prayer to the Father, then somewhere in the middle they are addressing Jesus, and at the end they say, “In the name of Jesus.””  So they were praying to Jesus and then also tacked on the “In the name of Jesus” at the end.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2007,06:06)Hi w, You say”Having the Spirit of the Son in us means that we can come boldly into his throne room through the veil of his flesh.Heb 4:16Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. There is no mention of in the Name of Jesus here,…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 27 2007,04:58)When you pray to the Father, you say at the end, “In Jesus name.”  When you pray to Jesus, what do you say at the end?  When you pray to the Holy Spirit, what do you say at the end?So is it only when you pray to the Father that you are “praying in Jesus' name?”  And if so, why?I'm confused.not3in1Tacking the na…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2007,22:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2007,22:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2007,22:04)Hi W,You say”Simply because I dont believe the Word was just an empty shell or vessel or a puppet on a string that the Father worked through.” Any suggestion that Christ as a vessel was a puppet does not fit with Gethsemane…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,22:43)To WorshippingJesus.So you admit then that God created all things THROUGH the son.Good. So how does that prove that he is God, because you even acknowledged the following yourself?GOD CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH HIS SON.The argument that this makes him God is ridiculous.E.g., Jesus builds his Church we know that from…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,22:18)Hi WorhippingJesus.Here is the question that came from my post.I repeat that I am not ridiculing your prayer life, but I admit to ridiculing the Trinity doctrine.Q: If you fellowship with 3 members of the Trinity, why is it that you do not use plural language when praying to THEM.I couldn't find the answer to that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2007,22:04)Hi W,You say”Simply because I dont believe the Word was just an empty shell or vessel or a puppet on a string that the Father worked through.” Any suggestion that Christ as a vessel was a puppet does not fit with Gethsemane when his disciples watched him pray to his Father God.Lk 22″ 40And when he was at the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,10:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2007,02:56)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2007,09:53)Hi Is 1.18, Only one son was begotten but the others are sons too, though created and without mums. Scripture calls all of them sons and so I do too.NHYea, well scriptures call Jesus God and you dont call him God.So again the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,10:51)I am not sure what you mean one reason.Are you insinuating that he is God because the worlds were made by him? Even if you aren't I am sure that you hold to this.Can I also ask if you believe that God made everything THROUGH his son. Do you believe this? Yes or no will suffice.t8You aparantly didnt read my previous…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,10:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2007,02:43)Yes I do have fellowship with the Father and the Son and the Spirit.You try and create a diversion by the foolish statement of praying to Gods substance.OK as I thought.You haven't given an answer to the challenge in how does a Trinitarian use singular language when…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 26 2007,07:37)….but why did John ascribe the word “theos” to the Logos?Is 1:18Good luck on getting a straight answer on that one!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2007,09:53)Hi Is 1.18, Only one son was begotten but the others are sons too, though created and without mums. Scripture calls all of them sons and so I do too.NHYea, well scriptures call Jesus God and you dont call him God.So again the scriptures are apparently for you to form your  “own doctrine” rather than letting…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 26 2007,07:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2007,06:48)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2007,05:47)Hi w, Did you not say there are alternative meaningsbut you now insist we accept the one you chose?NHIs there an alternative meaning for Heb 1:10 and Pss 102? I only know of one reasonable one WJ….but we'll see what t8 comes…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2007,02:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2007,20:39)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2007,00:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2007,10:38)I never mentioned the word ashamed!To WorshippingJesus.True.But if you say that I am shedding bad light on this BB, then I use such a word in context to say that I believe that I am not and hence…[Read more]