Quote (Adam Pastor @ April 24 2007,03:40)I love the way both CB & Tim2 evade Jeremiah 33.16! Tim2, just as in Jere 33.16 … “There is no suggestion in the Bible that a city or an entire nation is God;” likewise Jere 23.6 is neither stating that Israel nor the king of Israel, is GOD Almighty!However, just as Jere 33.16 does infer that the city of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,06:45)Hi W. You say”What bothers me is that you took the time and then went back to your proof text, totally ignoring his.” Then you say”Can you see how I would get upset?”  No. You are not Is 1.18.We are not employed to be accusers of the brethren.NHAccuser of the brethren, LOL.Read this post and see who is…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 24 2007,03:56)t8, if it wasn't for your dedication AND time – there would be no forum for men to accuse you, and to show their wisdom   I assume you have a family?  Kids?  A life?So, thank you for taking time to participate in these debates, and for your humble position.God respects those who are contrite at heart, and wh…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 22 2007,21:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2007,23:01)If you are so sure your writtings are inspired then why would you write this in yoiur rebuttal…To WorshippingJesus.I spoke the truth when I said that.Given more time I know that God could have shown me. It wouldn't have been hard, I just needed to read it with more…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 22 2007,21:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2007,22:40)Quote (t8 @ April 17 2007,19:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 17 2007,22:13)Also I do have an answer for your twisted response to Is 1:18s proof text.But I am still praying about my answer.WorshippingJesus, you should be careful.If God inspired my writing then guess…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 22 2007,21:22)Quote (Cult Buster @ April 22 2007,19:35)t8, I also only repeat the following.Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God.Joh 1:3  All things were made by him…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ April 23 2007,10:12)Quote (Cult Buster @ April 22 2007,12:14)t8Jer 23:5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: a…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:54)Quote QuoteJesus is a man.  Of course he received authority and power from God.  But He's also God.  John 20:28.So, befor he was given this authority and power, how much authority and power did he have?did he have an equal amount of authority and power with his Father, and his God, Jehovah?And if he did, does th…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:51)Charity was talking about wisdom in proverbs.  Your responce to her was:Was Jesus a female?The scriptures you refer to is speaking of wisdom personified not Jesus.. . . .Unless you believe he is female or the wife of God!  And then:”Is Jesus your sister?”You are clearly saying that wisdom cannot be referring to J…[Read more]

David All things were made by him and *For Him*, when were all things made?He already had everything to make all things.

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:44)I am usually not given things I already have, are you? Is there anyone here who has to be given something they already have?There are many many scriptures which speak of the things God gave Jesus.  They were God's to give.Jesus had to given them.You cannot summarily dismiss these scriptures by saying: John…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:41)Quote Why isnt phil 2 and Jn 1:1 an answer?Those are scriptures not answers.Quote If he is God then that would say that he shared all power and authority as he does now Then why oh why did he have to be “given” these things?Are you usually given something you already posess?DavidBecause according to Phil 2 he…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2007,18:31)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2007,18:26)Hi W, You ask 'Was Jesus the wisdom in himself?” No it was GIVEN to him.Luke 2:40And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.Luke 2:52And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:28)Quote The problem is you dont listen or dont accept the answers, which of course is your right.Um..  no.  The problem is instead of even attempting to answer a question you can't answer, you say something LIKE 'John 1:1, Jesus is clearly God, hence the trinity, hence I don't have to answer your questions.  …[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2007,18:26)Hi W, You ask 'Was Jesus the wisdom in himself?” No it was GIVEN to him.Luke 2:40And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.Luke 2:52And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.1 Corinthians 1:24But unto them which are…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:25)Quote DavidNo my argument is bnot invalid!Is Jesus your sister?Let me explain it again….You say that the word wisdom is in the female gender so it can't apply to Jesus.But the Greek word “love” in “God is love” is also in the female gender and “God is love.”Obviously you CAN use the female gender for words that…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,18:12)Quote DavidLies from your hellish religion!You're funny.  You gave up in the other thread, because you can't answer questions, and now you go around simply saying: “hellish religion” instead of actually conversing.Look in the mirror for a second.  What do you see?  Someone who can't answer questions but pr…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,17:01)Quote CharityWas Jesus a female?WJ, is God female?  Yet, the Greek word for “love” in the expression “God is love” is also in the feminine gender. (1 John 4:8) So, your argument is invalid, and not scriptural.David No my argument is bnot invalid!Is Jesus your sister?Prov 7:4Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister;…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2007,16:54)Quote CharityWas Jesus a female?The scriptures you refer to is speaking of wisdom personified not Jesus. “Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth; before he had made the earth, the countryside, and t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2007,07:35)Hi W, If you can find written in scripture what you believe then you can rightly begin to believe it and if you can find witnessing verses in scriptures in the mouths of God's anointed teachers then indeed you can claim that you are teaching truth.However if you cannot find it written but have to look for…[Read more]