Quote (epistemaniac @ April 24 2007,15:26)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 24 2007,07:03)Logic defends what it can see, touch, hear, smell, taste, and understand.  Logic tells us that spring comes before summer; a child is first conceived before it is born, a God who says he is One is mathmatically ONE.We look to nature to help us in our logic.  We u…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,11:10)Hi W, No you have tried to build a doctrine foreign in every way to the great themes of scripture from these two verses. You may or may not be right but our God is not a God of confusion and in my opinion the weight of the revelation of God does not support your supposition.If you are wrong then perhaps it…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 24 2007,12:43)And I believe you did mean to refer to me being the monkey on his back since I am the one challenging him on his false statements************Maybe I did, and maybe I didn't.  But I knew that others were not extending grace either by my quick scan of the thread.  At any rate, if I have hurt your feelings, then I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,10:56)Hi W, He said he was the Son of God.Believe him and do not add to his words.NHYes John heard him say that he was the Son of God, yet John recorded Jn 1:1 and 20:28.Why do you not believe these scriptures?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,10:38)Hi W, Did he, or are you joining in their foolish misinterpretation of his words?They were not his friends but wanted to kill him so choose yours carefully too.He did claim to be the son of God and that is much safer ground we can agree on.NHThey fully understood what he was saying, but they rejected his…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,10:26)Hi W, God is not a man and should not be made to be in man's image. God does not have a body. God is Spirit. So how can we look at these verses with such truths in view?NHObviously by the carnal mind and carnal logic, blinded with Arian teaching you cant look at the truth as it plainly shows.You are still…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ April 24 2007,10:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 23 2007,21:07)If you use your logic to say that LORD, YHWH is meaning in this instance “An Agent”, then how do you know when to apply the Hebrew word LORD, YHWH to God?Answer:It is called context!First you begin with the most obvious fact that the Messiah is NOT himself, GOD…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,09:48)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2007,09:42)NHNo inference.Answer the questions. Who was John referring to when he ascribed Zech 12:10 to Yeshua saying…THEY SHALL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED.Hi w, Indeed they will look on him.NHYou cant answer can you?Zech 12:10 YHWY says…“that they will look on Me…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,09:50)Hi W, They thought Jesus was God and wanted to kill him.That problem has never gone away.NHNo they didnt think Jesus was God or they wouldnt have killed him.The didnt like the fact that Jesus claimed to be God, the Lord from heaven, the one before Abraham, the I AM, the Son of God, which were terms to them…[Read more]

NHYou say…Quote Such is the voice of a stranger and we do not listen to strangers I think that is the problem, you have been listening to the voices of to many strangers.

NHNo inference.Answer the questions. Who was John referring to when he ascribed Zech 12:10 to Yeshua saying…THEY SHALL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,09:22)Hi w, The scripture spoke of Christ but they did not hear the message.John 5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.John 10:35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;They at least knew Who God was. They just knew nothing…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,09:22)Hi w, The scripture spoke of Christ but they did not hear the message.John 5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.John 10:35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;They at least knew Who God was. They just knew nothing…[Read more]

NHWhy dont you answer these questions that Isaiah had for t8 concerning Zech 12:10.Q1) Was the “me” that was foretold to be pierced and looked upon by the inhabitant of Jerusalem in Zech 12:10 a refererence to YHWH? If not, please provide lexical evidence to the contrary.Q2) According to John's inspired-understanding, was Yeshua in fact the “me”…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,08:32)Hi W, God is not the Son of God.Zechariah 12:10I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,08:51)Hi W, Trinitarianism is not a religion.It is not a denomination.It is not the body of Christ.It includes catholics and various protestants who have murdered each other for their individual differences for centuries. It is as divided and diverse a group as ever could be found who privately scorn each other's…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,08:51)Hi W, Trinitarianism is not a religion.It is not a denomination.It is not the body of Christ.It includes catholics and various protestants who have murdered each other for their individual differences for centuries. It is as divided and diverse a group as ever could be found who privately scorn each other's…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,08:34)Hi W, He is able to take care of himself so do not get upset on his behalf.NHI am full aware that Isaiah is able to take care of himself.I was upset because of the way t8 handled the debate at that point in time. And again it had nothing to do with time.

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 24 2007,07:50)WJ, you take things way to personal (like me).So now you've been called a pig, and a monkey…..and you're still here taking the abuse!  Ha!  I didn't mean to refer to YOU only as being the “monkey on his back” – I meant in general, brother.  You are not the only one giving t8 a hard time, are you?I respect wh…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2007,08:08)Hi W, You have not explained why something said to Is 1.18 makes YOU upset.NHWhy does this matter to you?I defend and stand by the truth which I think Isaiah is a teacher of.