Quote (Unisage @ May 10 2007,16:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 10 2007,04:40)Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,10:50)If the Father is separate from the Son, and the Holy Spirit is a serperate person from them, then who is Jesus's father? Mt.1:18-20 reads, Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2007,13:12)Hi W,Thank you for that acceptance of your situation. You can assemble scriptures to back almost any claim you like, but listening to the Spirit in scripture is wiser.Staying within those teachings and not going beyond them is the way you can enjoy fellowship with the Father and the monogenes Sonwho was sent…[Read more]

NHI suppose you could make that claim. Better than “inferring” that Jesus was a Son before he was born a Son, or that he was born again at the Jordan, or that he was filled with the Spirit at the Jordan, or that the Word that was God is no longer God, or that the Word had a beginning.NH. Do you have scriptures for all of the above inferrences? Is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 09 2007,12:03)Hi, Should the gospel include a trinity?Only if you believe all of the scriptures, including the ones that says that Yeshua is God, and the Holy Spirit is “Another” comforter!

Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,10:50)If the Father is separate from the Son, and the Holy Spirit is a serperate person from them, then who is Jesus's father? Mt.1:18-20 reads, Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. Why is…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,13:04)And from this website, a Jewish interpretation of Ps 22:http://www.kosherjudaism.com/tehillim22humor.htmlMuch as I disagree w/ the denial that this is a fulfillment of prophecy concerning Christ, their interpretation helps me to even appreciate the Lord Jesus so much more.  When he could have “cussed and died” he…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ May 09 2007,17:49)Hi Nick,Romans 10:9-13 say we must confess the Lord Jesus, that the same is Lord over all, and that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, the last one being a quotation of Joel 2:32, which says everyone who calls on the name of YHWH will be saved.  It seems to me the only alternative to Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 09 2007,17:01)I agree. Yes indeed there is one firstborn son (prototype) and there are many sons.As far as divine nature goes: have you not read that we will partake in divine nature?t8Maybe I should have been more precise.We will not share his Deity!

Quote (t8 @ May 09 2007,16:23)To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,03:19)Jn 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, *and Jesus Christ*, whom thou hast sent.Jesus never mentioned in his prayer that knowing us would be Eternal life did he?I am not saying this. I am simply pointing out that if the Father and…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 09 2007,16:18)To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,03:19)Yeshua and the Father is in us and we are in “Them”.Ring a bell?Gen 1:26And God said, *Let us* make man *in our image, after our likeness*: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 09 2007,16:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,03:19)t8So let me see if I understand.You think that we share Deity with the Father and the Word/God the Monogenes (Unique) Son of God?So we are all (Monogenes) Sons?To WJ.I say what scripture says. That we can be one with God and with his son. We can be in them and they in us.I…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ May 09 2007,11:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,00:14)John says the Word that made all things is a “Him”.John said no such thing. John wrote in Greek.According to Greek grammar, the gender of the pronoun has to match the gender of the word associated to it.In this case, the masculine noun 'logos'.John writes the…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ May 09 2007,12:03)WJ, simply pointing out in ref. to your reply to Unisage … that the word 'man' in the KJV quote of Matt 11.27 is not the Greek word for 'man'That's all!APFine.But of course your implication is the Spirit is not a Person.Which I dont think Matt 11:27 is a good example to show the Spirit is not a…[Read more]

Amazing how the Unbelievers make these bold claims against the truth and yet do not have any truth to defend.No scriptures to support there belief. They just run around claiming that they have the truth yet show us no scripture to back it up.All they know how to do is accuse the brethren and we know what spirit that comes from.

Quote (Adam Pastor @ May 09 2007,11:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 08 2007,17:05)Its says…Matt 11:27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and *no man* knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth *any man* the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.The last time I looked the Spirit is not a man.FYIThe…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,10:49)Its amazing when you catch trinity people in there own lies.They go off topic..Show me where I lied!You accuse me of lies.Please post and paste where I have lied.People can get banned for such accusations.If you say my interpretation of the scripture is a lie, fine, at least show me how.Other wise it would do you…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,08:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,11:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,06:50)Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,06:30)Thank you, t8.Hi All,I'd like us to consider something that AP brought up regarding the LXX manuscript (Greek OT) which I was not aware of.  Apparently, there is a Hebrew manuscript that reads…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,08:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,11:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,06:50)Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,06:30)Thank you, t8.Hi All,I'd like us to consider something that AP brought up regarding the LXX manuscript (Greek OT) which I was not aware of.  Apparently, there is a Hebrew manuscript that reads…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,06:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,06:04)Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,05:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,04:24)Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,03:30)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 08 2007,21:26)Quote (Unisage @ May 08 2007,18:01)Hi NickI was trying to expalin in a way so that people can understand ..That is all..I…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 09 2007,06:54)Why dont you admit the Facts you are being deceived by a Man Made Doctrine!The facts are found in the scriptures which you have not addressed.Is 1:18 has some valid points on the scriptures he pointed out. I would like to know how you as a non-trinitarian understand those scriptures.If you cant reply to them I…[Read more]