Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2007,12:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2007,11:51)Nice try!But none of the versions you mention says “Jesus is not God”.Well, thanks for recognizing that I tried.  WJ, even if Jesus himself told you that he wasn't God, but that he was God's Son – you wouldn't believe him.  And why should you?  The great religious me…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2007,12:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2007,11:51)Nice try!But none of the versions you mention says “Jesus is not God”.Well, thanks for recognizing that I tried.  WJ, even if Jesus himself told you that he wasn't God, but that he was God's Son – you wouldn't believe him.  And why should you?  The great religious me…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2007,12:13)Quote (942767 @ May 30 2007,11:54)Hi WJ:As I said to you when I have a question about scripture I go to God in prayer and ask Him for understanding.  He has spoken to me in times past in and audible voice, and I find that he speaks pretty good English.  Also, he has spoken to me through prophets when h…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2007,09:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2007,08:32)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2007,07:46)Also since no man had seen God at any time and Jesus was also man and had seen God, then the question would be when did he see God?*************************************************************WJ, the verse doesn't say that Jesus saw…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 30 2007,11:54)Hi WJ:As I said to you when I have a question about scripture I go to God in prayer and ask Him for understanding.  He has spoken to me in times past in and audible voice, and I find that he speaks pretty good English.  Also, he has spoken to me through prophets when he needed to correct me.And as part of my m…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 29 2007,10:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2007,07:52)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 29 2007,06:33)Nick, thanks for pointing out that other versions can either justify our claims or they can shut them down.  We see what we want to see, sometimes.  We see what we pray is there…..  I am guilty of this as well.  We all have var…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 29 2007,10:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 28 2007,18:22)94You say…Quote But let me just ask you the following questions.  Did the body of Jesus exist before before he was born of the Virgin Mary?  And if we are saying “the body of Jesus”.  Who then is Jesus?There are many Hebrew scriptures that show Christ appeared to ma…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2007,07:46)Also since no man had seen God at any time and Jesus was also man and had seen God, then the question would be when did he see God?*************************************************************WJ, the verse doesn't say that Jesus saw God, it says “…..he hath declared him.”  Jesus made God known.  Because no o…[Read more]

94You say…Quote And my response is that I have not changed any of the scripture at all but I did use a definition in Stong's concordance for the word Logos.  I don't believe that Jesus existed as a sentient person before he was born of a virgin.  I know that I am not a scholar and I respect all the work that they did in translating the scr…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2007,07:08)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2007,06:06)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2007,05:37)So it seems pretty clear that Christ is that glorious being who was with God. Christ on earth prior to the Jordan had no obvious glory as Is 53 shows, so that glory, which he asked his Father to give him back, precedes his birth.John…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 29 2007,09:56)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2007,04:33)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,09:25)Hi W, We should not add to scripture even if it fits with our doctrines. Scripture is greater than us.NHTrue. Therefore you should throw out your heretical belief that Jesus was born again! And that the Word that was God ceased being…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,09:25)Hi W, We should not add to scripture even if it fits with our doctrines. Scripture is greater than us.NHTrue. Therefore you should throw out your heretical belief that Jesus was born again! And that the Word that was God ceased being God, and that a man must be water baptised to be saved… Etc, Etc, Etc…

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,09:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2007,09:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,08:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2007,07:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,07:35)Hi W, You should rather abide in scripture and not listen to strangers who have no knowledge of the way of truth and instead worship greek logic…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,09:10)Hi W, You seem to often misread things seeing images as realities perhaps?God is the Father.Ah so now you say Christ who is the exact representation of his substance is not a reality?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,08:25)Hi W, You say””If” they saw God it would be the Word/Yeshua!” Is this logic equal to scriptural revelation?NHThere you go again. Deny the very words of God before you.You should cry out to God and ask him to open your eyes to the truth.Yeshua pre-existed his birth and was seen many times in the Hebrew…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,08:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2007,07:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,07:35)Hi W, You should rather abide in scripture and not listen to strangers who have no knowledge of the way of truth and instead worship greek logic and inference. Neither should you tolerate additions to the scripture as that is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,08:27)Hi W, You say” Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen God!” Not quite.It says the FATHERBut it is good that you acknowledge that the Father is our God.NHAh so the Father is not God?What is the difference?If you have seen me you have seen the Father?orIf you have seen me you have seen God?Is there a…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 29 2007,07:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2007,06:42)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 29 2007,06:34)WJ, so they saw Jesus?not3I dont know of a scripture that says they “Saw” God!I know it says they talked to God! They Heard him walking! Since Jesus is the image of the invisible God , then if anyone at anytime has seen God, then we…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 29 2007,06:33)Nick, thanks for pointing out that other versions can either justify our claims or they can shut them down.  We see what we want to see, sometimes.  We see what we pray is there…..  I am guilty of this as well.  We all have various glasses that we put on from time to time.  Each version, it seems, has it's own…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2007,07:35)Hi W, You should rather abide in scripture and not listen to strangers who have no knowledge of the way of truth and instead worship greek logic and inference. Neither should you tolerate additions to the scripture as that is how we show our love for these precious words and for the God Who wrote them through…[Read more]