Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 19 2007,07:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,07:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2007,07:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,04:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,11:47)Hi W, Was God pierced?psst God does not have a body, and is invisible, and cannot die. You need to reexamine your evidence.You will find the…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2007,07:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,04:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,11:47)Hi W, Was God pierced?psst God does not have a body, and is invisible, and cannot die. You need to reexamine your evidence.You will find the one who died was the Son of God.Psst.God does have a body!1]In the beginning was…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic The word and the flesh in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2007,21:50)Hi Is 1.18,Isaiah 45:23I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.Isaiah 55:11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,04:05)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 17 2007,17:29)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,16:52)I am sure that they considered Yeshua to be YHWH, but not the person of the Father. I am sure that they considered the Holy Spirit to be “God”, a person but neither Father and Son. I am sure that they continued to have only One God…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,11:56)Hi W, You say”God did not cease to be God neither did the nature of the Word change, he simply took on the likeness of sinfull flesh just like we “partake” of his divine nature.”So since he is alike to us and we do not become God then neither was he ever our God?NHTake your Henotheistic glasses…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,11:47)Hi W, Was God pierced?psst God does not have a body, and is invisible, and cannot die. You need to reexamine your evidence.You will find the one who died was the Son of God.Psst.God does have a body!1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.14 And the Word/God was made…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 17 2007,17:29)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 17 2007,16:52)I am sure that they considered Yeshua to be YHWH, but not the person of the Father. I am sure that they considered the Holy Spirit to be “God”, a person but neither Father and Son. I am sure that they continued to have only One God above them.I don't follow you.They believed…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 15 2007,09:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:54)You are reading the most trusted and sure record there is that Jews believed that Jesus is God and yet not the Father.WJ, Humor me, just for a moment.Because there is no other record in the Bible of a Jew believing anyone else but the Father is God….and because…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,06:28)Hi W, The man from heaven is as written? Are you arguing with scripture again?He came as man and he was from heaven.He went back to to heaven as a son of Man, but now in an imperishable body because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.Dan 7″ 13I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2007,08:38)Hi W, Alternatively did the nature of God change when Jesus came?Did the ONE God revealed in the OT become a binity or a trinity?He seemed to continue to worship the ONE GOD of the Jews.Should we not follow him, as he told us to, or rather follow you?NHYou say…Quote Alternatively did the nature of God…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2007,17:09)Hi W,You quote”For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.”Indeed such is our Father and our God. The ultimate source and the provider and the supplier of all things that the glory may go back to Him.Do you not yet know our God Who works by His Spirit throughout…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
The problem that you have is Thomas didnt say… “MY LORD AND MY FATHER”, did he?
Listen again…Jn 20:28 And Thomas answered and *said unto him*, My Lord and my God.This passage seems to be so distressing to the Unitarians and Henotheist and Arians.If I was one I would be stressed to.You say…Quote Still confused?Your inference again NH!Can't…[Read more]Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 14 2007,19:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:41)NHWhere is it written that Jesus is “the man from heaven”?
Hi w,1Cor 15″ 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.”compareylt” 47The first man out of the earth, earthy; the second man the Lord out of heaven; “nasb”47The…[Read more]Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 14 2007,18:22)Hi W, Listen to Jesus teaching Thomas. Jn 14″ 5Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,18:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,18:34)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,18:28)To the Jews and God-fearing Gentiles of the day, there was only One God, and that God was the FATHER of Abraham.Being the good Jew that Thomas was, if he referred to Jesus as “God,” then he was calling him the God of Abraham! He…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
NHWhere is it written that Jesus is “the man from heaven”?

Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,18:28)To the Jews and God-fearing Gentiles of the day, there was only One God, and that God was the FATHER of Abraham.Being the good Jew that Thomas was, if he referred to Jesus as “God,” then he was calling him the God of Abraham! He was calling him the Father.Wow, I can see how the oneness doctrine got started…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 14 2007,18:22)Hi W, Listen to Jesus teaching Thomas. Jn 14″ 5Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,16:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2007,05:52)Isa 46:9Remember the former things of old: for *I am God, and there is none else*; I am God, and *there is none like me*, How can this be t8, seeing Jesus is the “exact representation of his substance” and the “Express Image of the invisible God”?When my husband and I…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,16:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 14 2007,13:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,12:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 13 2007,08:50)And later on Thomas confirmed this by saying…”My Lord and MY God”!If God is One, and God is the Father, when Thomas said, “…and my God.” Did he really say, “….and my…[Read more]
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