Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2007,10:11)Hi W, Indeed there is for us no other God but the Father. But you say we should also worship our Lord, the IMAGE and EXACT REPRESENTATION of God. Why?NHBecause all of creation does!Look….Rev 5: And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast…[Read more]

t8You say…Quote They are 2 because God has a son. That is 2. The only true God sent his son, that is 2. Even a child can understand that.2 what? “A God” and  “a smaller god”? or “a God” and “another divine being”?There was no such being with God. God is “One” t8.Your doctrine teaches that God made everything through a lesser being.You deny the…[Read more]

t8You say…Quote However I can save you going back to the drawing board. Instead let scripture be the basis of your doctrine. That way you can remain in the truth. So when are you gonna start?Again, here is your delimma!God is One. Yet you say there is another “being” that was with him.Your doctrine calls him “a god” or “a divine one” who God…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 21 2007,22:58)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 21 2007,22:24)“For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.”Do you as WJ said disagree with 600 scholars.you may become partakers of the divine…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2007,06:44)worshipingjesus  >  why should i leave my understanding to anyone much less to translators who are under certain presuasions of false teachings i am not putting my salvation in any church or organizations hands. God gave me a brain to us and think with and i chose to use it.doesn't it say to study to s…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2007,03:44)worshiping jesus > If your interliner Greek version desigrees with mine pleas be specific as to where with reguards to the subject i have mentioned i dought very much they disagree. but it is possible ihave two and they agree with what i said.mudding up the water doesn't help anyone.please be more…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2007,02:30)not2in1 >..right God created everything through the christos or Holy Spirit not Christ the Man. God plainly says He created the heavens and the earth by himself and He uses the word by (myself) and i believe myself means no one else was with Him. bible students need to understand how word meannings can be…[Read more]

HiJob 9:10 Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number.11 Lo, he goeth by me, and I see him not: he passeth on also, but I perceive him not.12 Behold, he taketh away, who can hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?Rom 11:33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 20 2007,17:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 20 2007,17:36)Ah, I see.I do respect you, brother.The thing that I most enjoy about this board is that by arguing your point/view – you may find out that you are incorrect or missing a valid truth.  I agrue with you because I believe I have truth.  By arguing with you, I just m…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2007,16:30)Q: If God created all things through Christ, then guess who created all things?A: God.Ephesians 2:10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.2 Corinthians 5:18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 20 2007,17:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,08:47)The problem that you have is Thomas didnt say… “MY LORD AND MY FATHER”, did he? Listen again…Jn 20:28 And Thomas answered and *said unto him*, My Lord and my God.This passage seems to be so distressing to the Unitarians and Henotheist and Arians.If I was one I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2007,16:26)To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2007,08:47)Jn 20:28 And Thomas answered and *said unto him*, My Lord and my God.This passage seems to be so distressing to the Unitarians and Henotheist and Arians.Distressing?It is even written that the sons of the most high are theos/elohim.No distress to speak of WJ.The term…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2007,16:30)Q: If God created all things through Christ, then guess who created all things?A: God.Ephesians 2:10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.2 Corinthians 5:18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2007,16:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 20 2007,16:29)Jn 8:42Jesus said unto them, *If God were your Father*, *ye would love me*: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.To WJ.John 8:42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2007,16:07)WJ.Remember this:Jesus gave the greatest rebukes to religious men who taught more from the traditions of men than truth. He was actually quite friendly with sinners.I think the reason here is that sinners were easily able to repent, but the proud teachers of tradition didn't think they needed to repent. A hard and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2007,12:56)Hi Worshipping Jesus, Neither should you worship any other God but the Father, as Jesus did.Jesus, and others, being called God, by God does not give any man permission to worship that being.He that honors, reveres, bows down to, praises, and worships the Son also praises and worships the Father.For he who…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2007,10:36)Hi W, You say”Jesus on the other hand took credit or claimed that he had  the power for works that he did.” Not so. He was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power.He also always gave all the credit for work done through his vessel to God.Go empowered the prophets and Christ and empowered the body of Christ…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ June 20 2007,12:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 20 2007,12:10)Quote (kenrch @ June 20 2007,12:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2007,11:41)Hi, Many would rewrite Jn 1.1 to read”In the beginning was the Word and the Word is in God and the Word is God”Yes and some would rewrite John 1:1 to say: In the beginning was the son and the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2007,12:12)Hi W,So attack is the best form of defense?It would be better to see how your view of Jesus as another deity fits with scripture?NHNo attack.The word needs no defence!You have no answer. You just dance around the truth.The truth is your doctrine does not match Hebrew Monotheistic scriptures which clearly…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ June 20 2007,12:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2007,11:41)Hi, Many would rewrite Jn 1.1 to read”In the beginning was the Word and the Word is in God and the Word is God”Yes and some would rewrite John 1:1 to say: In the beginning was the son and the son was with God.  Does the Word mean son?Not until John 1:14 did the Word become…[Read more]