Quote (karmarie @ April 28 2011,17:56)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2011,04:42)Quote (karmarie @ April 27 2011,22:36)WJ, what is wrong with questioning the validity of (a part of) what the topic is about?If you actually read what I had posted then you will see that it is actually about the forefathers and what SCRIPTURE could be saying about…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 28 2011,12:10)Keith!  It's the same then the trinity!!!  What kind of Scriptures to you want all the put up???  And where in  the Scriptures does it say hypo-stasis?not even the word trinity is in the Scriptures…..IreneIreneIt is found in Heb 1:3 and I quote it above but here it is again…Jesus is the “…radiance of God…[Read more]

Hi AllHere is some current info on the term “Hypostatic Union”…A theological term used with reference to the Incarnation to express the revealed truth that in Christ one person subsists in two natures, the Divine and the human. Hypostasis means, literally, that which lies beneath as basis or foundation. Hence it came to be used by the Greek…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 28 2011,10:08)Keith!  When we belonged to the W.W.Church of God, I had to find out what hypo stasis, means.  I am not sure if it is spelled your way this way…..It means the same then trinity.  Three in one….Our Ransom House Dictionary say's besides other, a person of the trinity. Since that is the case, should it not be un…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,18:47)Hi All,This is my post from page nine – my first post on this thread:Quote There has never been a known occasion in the history of the world where someone who was brought forth into existence wasn't also subject to a time when he DIDN'T exist.  I exist now because I was brought forth.  But because I was b…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ April 28 2011,05:05)WJ, maybe I understood wrong, when you said 'forefathers' do you mean the Early Church Fathers?It is pretty obvious the topic is about the early church Forefathers because it is about the “Hypostatic Union”.WJ

Quote (terraricca @ April 28 2011,03:26)Scriptures have nothing to do with it so it seems.PierreNot at all! The scripture says…Jesus is the “…radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, (hypostasis)…” Heb 1:3You cannot seperate the sun rays from the sun. Like the sun rays Jesus is the radiance of Gods glory and cannot…[Read more]

Duplicate post!

Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2011,23:01)It is my opinion this would be a doctrinal issue and not a scripture one and should therefore be in the Traditions or Truth forum and not this one.  I believe this is more about seeking to understand scripture that discusing a particular doctrine.Since this is about early Christian leaders and their doctrinale…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ April 27 2011,22:36)WJ, what is wrong with questioning the validity of (a part of) what the topic is about?If you actually read what I had posted then you will see that it is actually about the forefathers and what SCRIPTURE could be saying about it. (You call scripture spam?)Yes to post a ton of scriptures that are not related…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ April 27 2011,18:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2011,13:12)Why do you post something in this thread that is not about the topic?WJWHAT DID THE FOREFATHERS BELIEVE, thats PART of the title of the thread. You are trying to investigate something using the forefathers as proof.I can read WJ?Yes, exactly “WHAT DID THE…[Read more]

Why do you post something in this thread that is not about the topic?WJ

Hi KathiQuote (Lightenup @ April 23 2011,19:17)Did I ever say that I accept early 'orthodox' trinitarian views or did I simply say that I agree with an early trinity view? You said…Quote (Lightenup @ April 23 2011,13:07)That is still a mystery, so yes, there still is mystery but I understand a whole lot more than I used to and I am comfortable t…[Read more]

Hi KathiSince we are dealing with the nature of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, I thought I would bring this conversation to this thread.When you asked me if I was going to address your post, well I was letting you off the hook because I had other fish to fry, but if you want to go down this road then let’s do it. I would love to walk down t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2011,19:24)Deborah was called god.MikeBy who? Where is the scripture that shows a follower of YHWH or YHWH himself calling Deborah "god" or "Their god".If she is a "real god" then there should of been at least one example where she is called "god" by her followers, right?WJ

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 26 2011,23:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2011,22:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 26 2011,11:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 24 2011,06:48)Oh I see.  In YOUR mind, if one IS a god, then he must be YOUR personal god?  mikeWhy should I answer your question when you cant simply answer the bolded question that I d…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,10:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2011,01:43)Quote (Baker @ April 26 2011,18:48)Keith!  I did answer your question.  Jesus is not God how you want Him to be.  He is not equal to Almighty God, that is why I gave you those two Scriptures.  God is a title, again in Ancient times many are called Gods.IreneI am sor…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,08:03)Kerwin,I think you mean 'deity.'  Deity, true deity,  all who have divine nature and are represented collectively as one deity and/or independently as individuals depending on the context, i.e. the Father and the Son collectively represent one deity and they each are deity in their person although they are n…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 26 2011,18:48)Keith!  I did answer your question.  Jesus is not God how you want Him to be.  He is not equal to Almighty God, that is why I gave you those two Scriptures.  God is a title, again in Ancient times many are called Gods.IreneI am sorry but I don't see an answer.If God is a title and a name and Jesus has that tit…[Read more]

Hi AllThe drama never ends on HN does it?   WJ