Quote (kejonn @ July 30 2007,20:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2007,01:50)kejonnYou say…Quote This is another instance wherre you base your theology on shaky ground. Translate it as “by” and you can support the Trinity, translate it as “through” and it cannot. Weak. I disagree!Party #1 says I am gonna build a house.Party #1 has party #2 (a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 31 2007,06:52)Hi W, Yeshua in the flesh told Mary Magdalene of his God. Who was that?NHThe Father!Your point?

Quote (kejonn @ July 30 2007,19:09)WJ,Why do you think the translators capitalized “God” in Psalm 45:6, which the Hebrews 1:8 passage is based on, when it referred to an earthly king? If an earthly king can be called “God” in the OT, what makes the title so special in the NT?Psa 45:6  Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of…[Read more]

KejonnI am limited as to my time for rebuttal to your responses. However I will get to them when possible!You say…Quote Well, I really do not know. I asked the question of Is 1:18 of what he thought angels were. Are they divine in the similar sense that God is? I do not believe Yeshua is God Almighty nor an angel, but something totally unique. S…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 30 2007,18:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2007,17:59)Why did the 100 scholars of the NIV and the other 500 or so in all the other major translations sign off on it being “Theos”, with a big “G”. God?I did quote my source – it's the NIV STUDY BIBLE.not3Sorry! I didnt catch that!I will look into it. However, I dont think…[Read more]

kejonnYou say…Quote This is another instance wherre you base your theology on shaky ground. Translate it as “by” and you can support the Trinity, translate it as “through” and it cannot. Weak. I disagree!Party #1 says I am gonna build a house.Party #1 has party #2 (a contractor) build the house.Party #1 built the house “through” party #2.Did…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 30 2007,09:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2007,19:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 29 2007,13:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2007,11:44)You defy the translators and would have us interpret scriptures like Heb 1:8 as…But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, (O divine, or O god) is for ever and ever: a sceptre of r…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 29 2007,13:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2007,11:44)You defy the translators and would have us interpret scriptures like Heb 1:8 as…But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, (O divine, or O god) is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.Every major translation has this verse as…But unt…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2007,09:32)Hi w, You say”But as you know Trinitarians believe that Jesus also is the one true God as well as the Spirit.God the Father, God the Son, And God the Spirit!”And then you ask of others.”Do you think they were Polytheist? ” Ask yourself first. No NH!Trinitarians are not Polytheist Nor are they Modalist.One…[Read more]

KejonnHello my friend! HMMM! There has been a lot of discussion on this forum and blasting the pages by the “Unitarians”, yet you have been silent!However when a Trinitarian makes a post you are on it like flies on honey! Kejonn, are you on t8s payroll? To the subject at hand.First kejonn, my quoting the early church fathers is in no way to say…[Read more]

Now for some real truth about the corrupt version, the NWT!!!What leading Greek scholars say about the NWT:Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT “a frightful mistranslation,” “Erroneous” and “pernicious” “reprehensible” “If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are…[Read more]

Henotheism or Polytheism vrs Monotheism Part 2Henotheism! (Greek εἷς θεός heis theos “one god”) is a term coined by Max Müller, to mean devotion to a single “God” while accepting the existence of other gods. Müller stated that henotheism means “monotheism in principle and polytheism in fact.” Source Monotheism: the doctrine or belief that there i…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 26 2007,18:44)Welcome back, WJ.  I wondered where you were……not3Thanks! Hope you and yours are well!

Quote (kejonn @ July 26 2007,00:05)Quote (Cult Buster @ July 24 2007,16:44)Kejonn. You still have a problem.The scripture clearly states that Jehovah the Holy Spirit is speaking. Your efforts to make scripture contradict itself is a Jehovah's Witness trick.Back to the drawing board for you.CompareJer 31:33  But this shall be the covenant that I…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 21 2007,09:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2007,09:05)Quote (kejonn @ July 21 2007,08:26)WJ,I will answer the rest later (and the rest of the earlier post  ) but again, you pull a quote from one of the spurious writings of Ignatius. Why do you do this? It only puts your honesty into question because you want to claim…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 21 2007,08:26)WJ,I will answer the rest later (and the rest of the earlier post  ) but again, you pull a quote from one of the spurious writings of Ignatius. Why do you do this? It only puts your honesty into question because you want to claim that it was actually Ignatius writing these things. Heres a note about the spurious…[Read more]

KejonnYou say…Quote Tsk tsk, I hate to say this, but you are going down the River of Denial with a leaky boat and no paddle. You, next to CB, have the thickest Trinity glasses on this board  . But 33 years of believing something is hard to give up on. I respect that.And I will never let go of my belief in the Lord my God who saved me.I have no…[Read more]

KejonnYou say…Quote Huh? Ignatius said it, not me. I don't think Yeshua is God. He may be “God” in the sense that Moses was “God” to pharaoh, but he is not the one an only true God, the Father. Even Ignatius said so. Show me where Ignatius says the Father is the “one and only true God” at the exclusion of Jesus. Besides the fact, what you say a…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 19 2007,17:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 19 2007,17:08)The key to your claim that because he teaches against Polytheism means that he teaches against the trinity is the fact that he claims Jesus as the Creator!Plain and simple. Ignatius like John who discipled him believed Jesus to be YHWH in the flesh.WJ, I was wondering…[Read more]

KejonnYou say…Quote I'm sorry if my answer does not satisfy you. In fact, if you look again at Romans 8:9, you would see that with the separation of “Spirit of God” and “Spirit of Christ” in the same verse, you would realize that both Yeshua and the Father influence you through their roles. Would “One God” need to make such distinction? Why the n…[Read more]