Hi All!This post is a post that I made to GB some time ago.I bring it up on this thread for gollamudi and GBYeshua says…God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship (proskuneo) him in spirit and in truth. Jn 4:24The Greek word for “worship” is 'proskuneo' which means…1) to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence2)…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 21 2008,08:21)WJ…… what i said to Nick goes Ditto for you, who do you think Jesus was talking about when He said (THOU ART THE ONLY TRUE GOD) HIMSELF OR GOD THE FATHERHi GBFirst of all GB, the Lord didn’t say “(THOU ART THE ONLY TRUE GOD)”, those are your words. Here is what Jesus said…And this is life eternal…[Read more]

Hi All!In their attempt to explain away the NT scriptures and Apostles calling Yeshua “True God”, t8 as well as others on this sight insist that there is more than “One True God”, and that there are other smaller true gods.This is blatant Polytheism or Henotheism at best, and is contrary to the Hebrew scriptures!The following shows many scriptures…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,21:33)t8And your observation that there is more than “ONE GOD” is unscriptural!Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,21:33)Actually that is your observation about what I say.Scripture says that there is one THEOS and that men, angels, etc are theos. Where is the scripture that ascribes Divinity to these so-called gods you speak of?You…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 22 2008,04:40)WJ…….The Holy Spirit is God the Father's own spirit and is given to us from Him it is in Jesus and all who have it. Its the same Spirit Jesus Had in Him. Thats why He said the Father was in Him, you can say the same thing if you have it in you. “For it is GOD who works in you to both will and do His…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,18:05)And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us insight to know him who is true, and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This one is the true God and eternal life. (1 John 5:20)Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,18:24)Again, if you are implying that Jesus is the true God as in the one true…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,18:05)Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (Titus 2:13)Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,18:16)WJ, if you are implying that this scripture is saying that Jesus is YHWH, then you have to exclude the Father from being YHWH.Your logic betrays you t8.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 21 2008,04:41)Nick…here is a good example of what i see done here all the time and i believe prevents any true conclusions of subjects, people infer things mean what scripture does not actually say. For instance lets take John 1:3 >all things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made that was made. That is…[Read more]

MandyMay the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you always!

Quote (Stu @ May 18 2008,15:24)Quote I don't know everything.  I am still learning, and maybe I can learn something from you, but I am not deluded about God being a reality and that His testimony regarding Jesus is true.  I know this by the Spirit of God that dwells within me, and through many personal experiences.  If you are trying to co…[Read more]

Hi GBQuote (Gene Balthrop @ May 18 2008,14:53)T8…….> Mandy said she lost faith in some of the scriptures, and obliviously as we prove over and over here that scriptures are mistranslation, miss applied, and miss used and misunderstood.“Does the miss translations, miss applied, and misused and misunderstood” statement also apply to you? Or are…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,17:48)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,17:28)Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,17:22)We now await the response designed to hide this and confuse the readers.t8Seems that you confuse the readers by all the gods you talk about! You will never be able to deny that theos is also used for some men, angels, idols, Satan, etc.It is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,17:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,16:27)There is no example in the NT scriptures where any of the Apostles or followers of Christ used the term theos in a divine way for any other being other than Jesus.The claim that “Theos” is used for angels and men in a divine sense is not supported by NT scriptures.I never…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,17:22)We now await the response designed to hide this and confuse the readers.t8Seems that you confuse the readers by all the gods you talk about!

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,17:18)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 17 2008,16:51)But you've inferred that our doctrines are inferior.You guys read too much into what I said.I said that folks who have decided they don't believe in the trinity have a hard time letting go of certain aspects of that doctrine.  That is all I meant.  Not that the doctrine was i…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 17 2008,16:51)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,16:40)WJ,Wow – I just finished reading your post to me (I hadn't read the whole thing before I posted the above post).You really let me have it, didn't you?  Good grief.  Are you OK tonight?  Bad night?You know me well enough by now that you must realize I wasn't being mean sp…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 17 2008,17:05)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,17:02)Paul,I'm too tired to be arrogant.You don't know me very well.You've been away too long.MandyI didn't say I thought you were arrogant. I don't think this at all. I meant the comments you make regarding the trinity were likely construed that way by Keith.True!But, Mandy has been…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,16:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,15:44)I find your words lacking.That's OK, bro, I understand.I haven't been as “into” debating lately as I have in months gone by.  I don't even reach for my bible anymore.  I'm sure my arguments are growing stale.  I've heard the same arguments for the same scriptures so ma…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 17 2008,11:13)This argument is common argument used by henotheists when confronted with their polytheism. T8 argues that although there is one Almighty God there exists other lesser divinities, rightly called “gods”. The problem with this though is that nowhere in the Bible do we find the ascription of divinity to these “go…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 17 2008,11:08)I guess the questions being begged then are – is it the Spirit where the individual's centre of consciousness exists, is it where their identity and personality comes from? Are spirits even unique to the individual, or is it universal to the kind or being. I personally don't have a problem accepting Yeshua and…[Read more]