Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2008,07:12)Hi WJ, Is this the God of Jesus, the one we follow?NHYes he is also the God that the Father calls God!Heb 1:8

Quote (gollamudi @ June 25 2008,03:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2008,02:58)Quote (t8 @ June 24 2008,23:42)Equality?Two humans could be considered as equal in nature but not in rank or position. e.g., A citizen of the USA and the president of the USA are both human, but not equal in national authority. We even hear talk about equality among…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 25 2008,03:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2008,03:09)Quote (t8 @ June 24 2008,21:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 21 2008,11:01)Can you name “One” thing that is not plural in nature?All creation reveals the Glory of God.Plurality of unity. But your Unitarian glasses will not let you see this I have human nature.I am…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 25 2008,04:31)Hi WJ,Don't you believe that Jesus is the Son of God?GMOf course I believe in Yeshua as the Son of God.He is the “Monogenes” unique Son of God.  You have a Father dont you? Is your Father greater than you?Maybe so. But is your Father more “man” than you?You are 100% man but so is he. God is in a metaphysical…[Read more]

NHQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2008,12:49)But Jesus told us to worship the Father in spirit and in truth.He did not say the same about himself or the Spirit of God did he? Then why did Yeshua not once discourage those who “proskuneod” him? Why would he use the same word for the worship of the Father that was being done to him? Is there any other…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 24 2008,12:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2008,11:49)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2008,11:07)Hi WJ,So honour is the same as worship to you?Your god is too small.NHLook up the Greek. It actually can be a more powerful word than worship.Honour Greek “timao”1) to estimate, fix the valuea) for the value of something belonging to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 24 2008,12:44)Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 16 2004,20:23)On the 2 Cor 13:14.You miss my point. Why would both the Father and His spirit be mentioned in this verse? It wouldnt make sense — unless they are distinct persons.How does the Father indwell people?By his Spirit.Therefore the Father who is in Heaven, lives in us by his Spirit.A…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 24 2008,21:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 21 2008,11:01)Can you name “One” thing that is not plural in nature?All creation reveals the Glory of God.Plurality of unity. But your Unitarian glasses will not let you see this I have human nature.I am not 2 people. I am a person. A human being.If I was wearing glasses that made me…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 25 2008,02:18)Hi T8, you finally came out with your understanding of believing more than one God?GMYes, but still a little vague. He believes that Yeshua is equal to God in nature, but cannot claim or say that he is his god.

Quote (t8 @ June 24 2008,23:42)Equality?Two humans could be considered as equal in nature but not in rank or position. e.g., A citizen of the USA and the president of the USA are both human, but not equal in national authority. We even hear talk about equality among people, but some people obtain a better position even though they are still…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ June 24 2008,17:43)Hi DK,You are funny.DkNo actually “Worshipping Jesus” is “two” words!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2008,11:07)Hi WJ,So honour is the same as worship to you?Your god is too small.NHLook up the Greek. It actually can be a more powerful word than worship.Honour Greek “timao”1) to estimate, fix the valuea) for the value of something belonging to one's self2) to honour, to have in honour, to revere, venerateWe are to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2008,08:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 21 2008,11:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2008,11:42)Hi WJ, So Jesus is not a God and you should not worship him?NHNo he is not “a God” but is the “True God”.Just listen to John, Thomas, Paul, Peter, and the Apostles that called him God and grabing his feet worshipped him. Hi…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 21 2008,13:36)The Greek word for “only begotten” is monogenes, the very form of which clearly denotes “only generated.” As monotheism connotes only one God and monosyllable means a word of only one syllable, so monogenes means only one genesis or only one generated–or, more simply, only begotten. It does not mean…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2008,13:17)Hi WJ,What I am getting at is that this word does not mean he is the only son, or the only son who is begottenNHBut the word begotten does not apply to Yeshua preincarnation.”Monogenes” and “gennao” are two different words.

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 21 2008,13:21)***theyHi DKAnd as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And *they* came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. Matt 28:19

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2008,11:50)Hi, Another wrong understanding of monogenes – posted by WJ in another thread. Posted: June 21 2008,10:54   ——————————————————————————–Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2008,09:16) Hi WJ,Surely you know “monogenes” does not mean he is the ONLY begotten Son?…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2008,11:42)Hi WJ, So Jesus is not a God and you should not worship him?NHNo he is not “a God” but is the “True God”.Just listen to John, Thomas, Paul, Peter, and the Apostles that called him God and grabing his feet worshipped him.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2008,11:38)Hi WJ, So it does not mean he is the only one but it speaks of his unique genesis.NHBut it does mean he is the “Only One” in that there will never be another Word that was with God and was God and was made flesh, or tabernacled among us.This is the Genisis you are speaking of and happened when Yeshua was…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2008,04:47)wj….Interesting, you say, but for the believer there is but (ONE) GOD and yet you break up this (ONE) GOD unto (three) Gods. Isn't that a contradiction of some kind.Every thing you quote goes against your belief in three Gods, Even trough you try to say there one in the same your trinitarian teachings…[Read more]