Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,13:10)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 27 2011,21:52)Just to expand on this idea a little more and make it crystal clear for you Michael… “But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King At His wrath the earth quakes, And the nations cannot endure His indignation. Thus you shall say to them, “The…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 26 2011,19:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 27 2011,02:55)Quote (seekingtruth @ May 26 2011,00:13)SFQuote I am too old to be a boyAll the harassment you give us "old farts" and we can't call you boy! I have a routine with my youngest son, I'll call him "boy", he'll call me "old man", I'll call him "boy" a second time…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2011,15:08)Keith,Sometimes it is the Father who speaks to us and sometimes it is the Son, we can call either one of them 'Lord' and say the 'Lord spoke to me.'  Usually I just know that the impression or thought came from one of them but not sure which one and I don't know if it matters…if it did then that would be…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,00:00)Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,18:53)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,07:08)Keith,Sometimes it is the Father who speaks to us and sometimes it is the Son, we can call either one of them 'Lord' and say the 'Lord spoke to me.'  Usually I just know that the impression or thought came from one of them but not sure which…[Read more]

Quote (MasterRich @ May 27 2011,17:11)If God meant for certain people to see Hell not only to tell others of what they saw but so that it would bring to the Jesus then that's the way God will do it. For me that was the case, for someone else it may not be.Hi MasterRichOK, I can accept that, but if the all loving God desires all to be saved and all…[Read more]

Quote (MasterRich @ May 27 2011,15:55)He tries and gives them many chances hoping they will.Really! Do you think that anyone would not repent and be saved if they saw what you saw? Is there anyone that has ever seen what you have seen and yet said no to God or to salvation? If not then all he has to do is just show them what you seen, right?WJ

Quote (MasterRich @ May 27 2011,15:55)@WorshippingJesusI know what you mean but you must remember, God loves ALL OF US. HiExactly! So why wouldn't an all loving God give everyone a chance to see the hell you saw and have a chance to repent before they are thrown in it for ever and ever?Why didn't he warn Adam and Eve of such unimagineable pain and…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,05:57)Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2011,14:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2011,19:56)Quote (t8 @ May 26 2011,18:01)If you are convinced of your theory, that God is “THEM”, then call God “THEM” to at least show your faith in your own teaching/doctrine.When you do that, at least I will be convinced that you truly believe your own…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2011,15:08)Keith,Sometimes it is the Father who speaks to us and sometimes it is the Son, we can call either one of them 'Lord' and say the 'Lord spoke to me.'  Usually I just know that the impression or thought came from one of them but not sure which one and I don't know if it matters…if it did then that would be…[Read more]

Don't you think that if God would show everyone a vision like that then no one would go to hell, would they?I wonder why God didn't warn Adam and Eve of such unimagineable torment forever and ever if they sinned?HMMM?   Why doesn't he give everyone the same chance?If God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked then why would he send someone…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2011,13:46)t8,So your list needs a different approach.  If you have read my really long post to you on the previous page then you will see that we need to use context to dictate which person of the Godhead is being spoken about or is doing the speaking. It is not always God, the Father.Hi KathiExactly. If t8 would be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 26 2011,19:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 27 2011,02:00)Quote (t8 @ May 26 2011,04:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2011,04:50)Hi KathiYou mean “collective Deities” don't you? WJTRINITY:The Father is the deityThe Son is the deityThe Spirit is the deity.There you go WJ, a collective of deities. t8Of course that is a…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ May 26 2011,00:13)SFQuote I am too old to be a boyAll the harassment you give us "old farts" and we can't call you boy! I have a routine with my youngest son, I'll call him "boy", he'll call me "old man", I'll call him "boy" a second time then he'll call me "santa" (beard going white and middle section expanding) about this…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 26 2011,15:13)I really really really have to go, 10 minutes ago, but:Quote So how do you reconcile that with the scriptures that says clearly “God Alone” created all things?How do you reconcile your intelligence with the scripture that says: “God, alone wise”?  DavidWhere is the scripture that says “God alone” is wise?WJ

KathiOne Deity means “One God” not a collection of Gods that are seperate beings.As far as the Holy Spirit, there are no scriptures that say the “One Spirit” is a combination of two Spirits.There are many scriptures that prove the Holy Spirit is not the personal Spirit of the Father as well as most of the writings of the Forefathers, which say the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 26 2011,15:09)CONTINUING ON FROM MY SECOND LAST POST, I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED:”You seem to have created a false argument above.  I am not saying that logic dictates it.  I'm saying that logic allows it, as my illustration proves. “It is scripture that dictates it, when it continually says that it was created by God but “…[Read more]

David Are you saved through Jehovah? What about Rom 11:36?You didn't address it did you?WJ

Hold on there Kathi…You said…”Otherwise He would be called Father by those improperly called sons and thus not a true and proper Father as is one who passes on His nature to His Son.”When was there a time that Jesus did not have the nature of God? You have repeatedly said Jesus always existed in the Father sharing the same “essence” or nature…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 26 2011,02:27)What do people think the word “through” means?I didn't sell my house myself but I sold it “through” my real estate agent. So the parallel would be…Jehovah didn't create all things himself but did it through Jesus?Isn't that what your example is saying?So how do you reconcile that with the scriptures that says…[Read more]

Hi DennisonGood post. We spend a lot of time here telling people Jesus is “God with us” but all the anti-Jesus is God folks spend all their time telling us Jesus is not “God with us”.God alone is our Savour as you say yet Jesus is our Savour, not by proxy like all those that came before him. while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious a…[Read more]