Hi StuQuote (Stu @ Sep. 15 2008,19:29)I though you were being rude.  I am not a genius, but you insulting the intellectual capacity of the human species is something I should be entitled to challenge, as a human.It may surprise you but Judeo Christians are a part of humanity of which you are constantly insulting.Quote (Stu @ Sep. 15…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 17 2008,06:54)Hi WJ,Thanks!  The Son was given the name of His Father, that does not make them equal or co-eternal.  The Son has a mighty role indeed in the OT I think.LUHi LUCan you give me a scripture that says the Father gave Yeshua his name “YHWH”? Yeshua is spoken of as YHWH which is a name reserved for God a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 16 2008,14:55)Hello Gene and Adam and all,The first and the last here is the Son of God:Isa 48:12-16 12 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. 13 “Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the heavens; When I call to them, they stand together. 14…[Read more]

Hi StuQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 13 2008,11:53)Only those who realize that there is someone or something greater than they are can give up their mediocre minds to take on greatness. Quote (Stu @ Sep. 13 2008,23:00)That sounds like a script from a bad vampire movie.  Anyway, speak for yourself!Why be so rude? So does this mean that you do not…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 11 2008,22:59)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. John 1:1 NETQuote (david @ Sep. 13 2008,16:25)And neither is this one clear.  It is the most debates scripture on the planet.  Please remove it from your “clear” scripture list.To you it is not clear. In light of o…[Read more]

Hi DavidQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 11 2008,22:59)From Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, have been granted a faith just as precious as ours. 2 Peter 1:1 NETAre men to be slaves of a man or a demigod?           Are men to be slaves of a man or a demi…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 13 2008,10:19)In that case, WorshippingJesus, I restate my rejection of that ridiculous philosophy.I am not surprised.Quote (Stu @ Sep. 13 2008,10:19)To 'die to self' is just to take on someone else's ideology.That’s true. Only those who realize that there is someone or something greater than they are can give up their mediocre m…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Sep. 11 2008,13:26)“Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.” -Albert EinsteinI think the greatest race ever, is and was to win and claim the famous…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 11 2008,22:59)Yeshua taught men to believe in the scriptures and in his words. Men will always reject and criticize the written scriptures. I choose to follow Yeshua and put my trust in him and his words, and the words of Yeshua is to believe in Moses and his writings because if I believe not his writings then how…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 11 2008,11:18)Hi Stu,those are letters written to Timothy by Paul.So I guess paul did.Jesus endorsed Moses because all Jews did. Jesus would have never been able to teach anyone if He started out by denying Moses.Jesus was a gifted orator.Did you ever read any Shakespeare?”For Brutus is an honorable man;So are they all,…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 04 2008,05:34)Quote (Oxy @ Sep. 03 2008,09:52)I am not a trinitarian as described by some in this forum in that I do not see God as being made up of 3 equal “beings”.Keith,Am I to assume you agree with Oxy here?  Sounds like another brand of Trinitarianism to me?Thanks,MandyMandyNo! I cannot speak for Oxy. But I believe in…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 03 2008,17:19)Quote (Oxy @ Sep. 03 2008,09:52)Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 01 2008,23:55)So OXY, Jesus was another God besides One God in the beginning as you quote the 'word' in Jn 1:1 as Jesus ?Hi Gollamudi (interesting name, where did it come from?)There is indeed one God.  I am not a trinitarian as described by some in this…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Aug. 31 2008,15:15)In the Scriptures the term “first born” of course can mean the literal first born child in a chronological sense, but it can also be a title of honor… now, we know (or we should know) that the Scriptures do not contradict themselves, right? OK…. so we look at the following verse….Genesis 41:51 (ESV)…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,14:53)Hi WJ, You say”Yes, you are correct, there is no scripture that says Yeshua was born a son before the world began.”Then say” In fact the scriptural evidence leans toward the “eternality of Yeshua”.” If you are prepared to back the first statement as what being written is insufficient as proof, why trust your…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2008,08:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,07:43)Hi WJ, Fine words but not of faith. Jesus has proceeded and come from God.NHGood choice of words.Notice, no use of born or created.Big difference. There is no unambiguous scripture to support the preincarnate Yeshua had a begining.WJHi t8Quote (t8 @ Sep. 03…[Read more]

HiYaQuote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 03 2008,09:10)Yahshua could not come from Yahweh's side and from inside of Yahweh at the same time. Only one can be true.So you think this settles it huh?Tell me my friend how can Yeshua be in God and God be in him at the same time?Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 03 2008,09:10)The phrase “came down from heaven” is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,08:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2008,08:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,07:43)Hi WJ, Fine words but not of faith. Jesus has proceeded and come from God.NHGood choice of words.Notice, no use of born or created.Big difference. There is no unambiguous scripture to support the preincarnate Yeshua had a…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Sep. 01 2008,09:09)Quote (dirtyknections @ Aug. 31 2008,16:20)Quote (epistemaniac @ Aug. 31 2008,15:52)Sorry brother…But the Nicene Creed holds NO weight with true followers of Christ. To put it bluntly Constantine and the creators of the Nicene creed are the alpha of that which Jesus prophesied here..Matthew 24:8-148All…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,07:43)Hi WJ, Fine words but not of faith. Jesus has proceeded and come from God.NHGood choice of words.Notice, no use of born or created.Big difference. There is no unambiguous scripture to support the preincarnate Yeshua had a begining.WJ

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2008,02:52)In the beginning was the word.  That does not say that the “word” was eternal, it just says that it was in the beginning.  A word has an origin, first it must be a thought.  Surely there must be something more than that for those of you who believe that the Son of God always existed especially if you be…[Read more]