Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 04 2008,13:20)Quote It's difficult to reconcile this verse with others like John 1:3, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:3 and Heb 1:10 while still holding that Yeshua….1. Didn't pre-exist His incarnation2. Isn't the Lord God AlmightyThese verses are most assuredly not compatible with unitarianism, or henotheism. On the face…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 03 2008,11:27)That is a good questionAs I understand it the scriptures say that GOD created BY Jesus Christ (Col 1:16, Eph3:9)Now you will find places where it states that GOD is our savior and others that state that Jesus is our savior. One does not contradict the other for GOD is our savior and how is this expressed…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 01 2008,12:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 30 2008,13:32)Hi 94Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,13:05)What is funny is that they acknowledge that I am a brother in Christ, but unless I sign that I agree with their doctrines I can not be a member of their church.Maybe you should start your own church! Then you can teach whatever…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2008,08:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 01 2008,08:16)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2008,07:45)Hi MF, You say”Now the penalty of sin is death – separation from GOD, first in the body (1st death) then in the soul (2nd death)” We all know what the first death entails and sepatation from God is already manifest for most…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2008,07:45)Hi MF, You say”Now the penalty of sin is death – separation from GOD, first in the body (1st death) then in the soul (2nd death)” We all know what the first death entails and sepatation from God is already manifest for most menScripture tells us the Lake of fire is the second death.You say”Hence the redeemer…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,15:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 30 2008,13:26)Hi 94Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,13:05)What is funny is that they acknowledge that I am a brother in Christ, but unless I sign that I agree with their doctrines I can not be a member of their church.Just what is wrong with that? They acknowledge you as a brother. Are…[Read more]

Hi NHQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 30 2008,13:31)“Form” is a term which expresses the sum of those characterizing qualities which make a thing the precise thing that it is….When Our Lord is said to be in “the form of God,” therefore, He is declared, in the most express manner possible, to be all that God is, to possess the whole fulness of attribute…[Read more]

Hi 94Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,13:05)What is funny is that they acknowledge that I am a brother in Christ, but unless I sign that I agree with their doctrines I can not be a member of their church.Maybe you should start your own church! Then you can teach whatever you want. The Apostle Paul did this while he was a tentmaker.Why would you just…[Read more]

Hi 94Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,13:05)What is funny is that they acknowledge that I am a brother in Christ, but unless I sign that I agree with their doctrines I can not be a member of their church.Just what is wrong with that? They acknowledge you as a brother. Are you not seeking to be a Bishop in their church?Would they want a Bishop to teach…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,13:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 30 2008,12:45)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,12:27)Hi WJ:All the Apostle Paul was trying to convey by these scriptures is that we as Christians should exercise humility regardless of our position in the body of Christ saying  Quote Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also i…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 30 2008,12:55)Hi WJ, So he was in the form of Godbut was not that Godor part of that God.Hi NHWhat are you trying to say?That the Father does not have a form?So I suppose you would say that the Father is not in the form of God either, right? And if he is in the form of God then he must not be God, right?Is this what you…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,12:27)Hi WJ:All the Apostle Paul was trying to convey by these scriptures is that we as Christians should exercise humility regardless of our position in the body of Christ saying  Quote Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 94The Apostle Paul was elevating the sacrifice of Yeshua in c…[Read more]

Hi allThe following was posted by Isa 1:18 earlier in this thread….“My thoughts:Presuppositions will generally determine how this passage is interpreted but there are some important grammatical and contextual considerations that shouldn't be overlooked IMHO.Philippians 2:2-72make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same lov…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2008,10:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 27 2008,09:23)I am not ashamed or embarrassed to call Yeshua my God.In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. John 1:1 NETNo one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2008,01:22)I have some advice for you WJ.If Jesus is the Most High God and your God, then why not listen to what your God has said:“If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.”.Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,19:39)Yes I can hear the Apostles saying “(in a sense) you are my Lord and my God”.Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2008,01:18)If you cannot hear that, then perhaps you can hear that they are referring to Jesus and his God.Cannot hear? There is no “in a sense” Yeshua is God. These are your words and you are making inferen…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2008,01:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,19:39)If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John 14:7Why would he make such a claim?If Jesus is the image of the invisible God, then it makes perfect sense.Hi t8If the invisible God makes himself visible then…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2008,01:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,19:39)No dodging here. It seems you are the one dodging by playing word games with the Greek word “theos”.It's only a game to you WJ. Scripture has a variety of ways of using theos. You should know that by now.t8But like a broken record you keep saying the same thing, yet you…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 26 2008,11:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,11:33)Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 25 2008,20:29)There is no way that I would ever vote for Obama. I have been a conservative for years. But I just don't know, who got us in such a mess. And all is not over yet, either. Who knows what will happen with the Stock market. What hap…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 26 2008,11:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,11:33)Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 25 2008,20:29)There is no way that I would ever vote for Obama. I have been a conservative for years. But I just don't know, who got us in such a mess. And all is not over yet, either. Who knows what will happen with the Stock market. What hap…[Read more]