Hi MFQuote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 07 2008,01:11)Been busy last few days…Hi WJ Some thoughts on some of your comments.Quote Really? Can you name one attribute scripturally that the Father has of which Yeshua who is the “image of the invisible God”, does not have? Only one?How about a few?Omnipotence – Jesus does not have omnipotence of himself…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 03 2008,10:10)WJFrom the start of this debate :Quote Quote Make up your mind.Everything is everything. All power is All power and Jesus has it. You ever think of how much power that is?**********WJ – obviously you cannot grasp my point.  Do me the honor of pondering it for a while and see if anything comes to you?…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2008,07:57)WJ, Why pay lipservice to the veracity of scripture and try to find confusion? The millstone awaits those who would upset the faith of God's little ones.You know Who God is. He is not a trinity and the rest is from carnal men.NHThe confusion is in your own theology, for your theology dictates using white out…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2008,07:52)Hi WJ, You do not know who God is anymore?You should not pay attention to fools.NHWhat do you know about my relationship with God?You simply badger rather than addressing the points.I think that is rather foolish.WJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2008,07:34)Hi WJ, If you acknowledge the Father as God why do you teach that His Son is primarily to be worshipped?Why not follow the Son and worship his Father and God?You do not worship a trinity do you?Hi NHIf the Father is the invisible God then who is being worshipped in Revelation chapter 4? WJ

Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 06 2008,21:43)Some who are given his authority are called theos, but they are not the Most High Theos or true Theos. Rather they are representative of him who is the one true Theos.Can you give us one scripture where a representative of God who has divine qualities or attributes is called “theos”?  Just one scripture t8.…[Read more]

t8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 06 2008,21:31)Jesus is the IMAGE of the invisible God. If Jesus were God, then according to Paul, Jesus would be invisible and no one could see him or has seen him.I am Glad that you admit the Father who is Spirit is invisible and Yahshua is the “visible image of God”.Since you believe that Yahshua being the “visible image of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 06 2008,21:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 05 2008,01:58)Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Is the Father the image of the invisible God?Yes, if the Father who is invisible makes himself visible. Would the “image” you see not be God? Again, you reduce Gods image to being less than God therefore creating a false image of…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Oct. 07 2008,00:54)Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 06 2008,22:09)Good posts brother T8,At the same time please say that there can be no other Gods besides our Father in this whole universe. Please don't be confused with the word 'theos' which is wrongly translated for princes and judges in greek. These so called gods can not be…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Oct. 07 2008,00:34)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 06 2008,21:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 05 2008,01:58)Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Is the Father the image of the invisible God?Yes, if the Father who is invisible makes himself visible. Would the “image” you see not be God? Again, you reduce Gods image to being less than God…[Read more]

Hi DavidQuote (david @ Oct. 06 2008,18:32)Therefore, it is all the more strange that insights of the Sahidic Coptic text of John 1:1 are largely ignored by popular Bible translators. Might that be because the Sahidic Coptic Gospel of John translates John 1:1c in a way that is unpopular in Christendom?I think that translating John 1:1c as “a god”…[Read more]

Hi LUQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,11:00)And if Yeshua was the quote “firstborn of creation” (or came into existence as a separate sentient being) then would he not be like the Father?Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and “there is none else”; I am God, and “there is none like me”, Isa 46:9Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2008,17:06)Hi WJ, The Father is the God of Jesus and should be yours too.My children stay away from idols.NHHe is!WJ

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2008,17:16)Hi Mandy,Malcolm said that he believes that the Son of God was the “arm of God”, the agent used in creation by the Father.  I have said that myself and can certainly understand how that could be.  The scriptures are written in a progressive revelation where the New Testament's teaching shed light on the OT.  …[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2008,04:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 05 2008,01:58)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:39)This would be true if the scriptures say Yahshua is “an” image of the invisible God.Still true if he is the image of the invisible God.Is the Father the image of the invisible God?No,…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 04 2008,22:27)Hi Sis kathi,How many Gods you make for you; one is almighty and other is mighty. So what way your theory differs fro a JW?GMGood point!WJ

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:39)This would be true if the scriptures say Yahshua is “an” image of the invisible God.Still true if he is the image of the invisible God.Is the Father the image of the invisible God?No, Yeshua is.The Father is the one true God and Jesus Christ is who God sent.For 'us', there…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 04 2008,14:47)Quote The difficulty is this:- John 1:3, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:3 and Heb 1:10 all establish that Yeshua, at the very least, was involved in the creation event. Isa 44:24 does not allow for the involvement of any agency outside of YHWH.Hi Paul.  It's been a while.  I wish you would discuss Phil 2:5-7 in that t…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:39)This would be true if the scriptures say Yahshua is “an” image of the invisible God.Still true if he is the image of the invisible God.Is the Father the image of the invisible God?No, Yeshua is.The Father is the one true God and Jesus Christ is who God sent.For 'us', there…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 04 2008,12:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2008,02:44)Malcolm,Thank you so much for your input so far.  I'm following your reasoning and agree,yeah!  What is your response to the fact that the LORD claims that He alone stretched out the heavens and spread out the earth by Himself?Isa 44:2424 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, a…[Read more]