Hi DavidQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 12 2008,19:14) Wow, your argument is “unshakeable”? That’s a pretty bold statement to make especially when you are basing your argument on an “ambiguous” translation of the Greek text.EARTH TO DAVID!!! Only God is “unshakeable”…Quote (david @ Nov. 13 2008,14:44)My argument is simply that the “word is God” t…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 14 2008,10:19)WJ.Scripture promotes one God, you promote a triune God, one that is alien to scripture.Scripture promotes One God the Father, you promote one God the Father, Son, Spirit.John 1:1 promotes God and the Logos, you say it backs up the Trinity which is 3 persons. But John 1:1 is not talking about 3 persons as God. It is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 14 2008,08:33)Hi WJ, So if he is like Him he is not Him.Hi NHOf course Jesus is not the Father.The Father is like Jesus!Does that also mean he is not God.Men can be like their Fathers, but does that mean they are not human?Your foolish questions and comments pile up.WJ

Hi DavidQuote (david @ Nov. 13 2008,16:17)Where, did I say that the human judges who were called “gods” or the angels who were called “gods” were described as having “divine attributes”?Did I do that?  I don't remember doing that.Well then scripturally if they do not have “divine attributes” then that means they are not gods at all.Here is how…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 13 2008,16:21)Quote So get off your high horse in accusing Trinitarians of only following what some one tells them when this is exactly what your organization does.–WJIT IS SIMPLY A STATEMENT OF FACT……That most trinitarians have no clue in the least, whatsoever to any degree, how to back up their beliefs in the trinity,…[Read more]

TiffanyYour husband says…Quote (Tiffany @ Nov. 13 2008,05:52)Some people think God is to complicate to be understood, that’s because some people have made God to complicated to be understood. God in his word, the bible, has given us everything we need to know about him, if we go beyond that, its like going to the moon, trying to find out how l…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 12 2008,17:40)But it does tell us something about the use of the word “god.”  In the Bible, angels, and humans are called “gods.”Where David? Where is there a scripture of any being with “divine attributes” or “divine qualities” called gods?Where is the word “el” “eloyhim” or “theos” ascribed to any being that has “divine att…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 12 2008,18:56)Quote And just how do you know what is in the hearts of millions of believers?I have been under the belief that “believers” believe the Bible, and believe Jesus.  If Jesus said to “Go and make disciples” yet these are reluctant to even discuss Jesus or the Bible, how am I to take that?Quote Millions of believers…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 12 2008,19:12)Man says God is a Trinity.God doesn't say that HE is a Trinity.The Trinity doesn't say anything because it is a figment of the imaginations of men.God is one, not triune.God is a HE, not THEM.Hi t8Nice creed you have there t8.But your creed does not hold up against scripture that claims Jesus is God.WJ

Hi DavidQuote (david @ Nov. 05 2008,14:22)Which part of my statement was wrong?  WJ, you imply that I have no grounds for an argument.  But my argument is unshakeable.  I have never said that this proves that “a god” is the correct translation.  It simply does prove that the “word is God” rendering isn't as certain as many believe.My whole poi…[Read more]

Hi DavidQuote (david @ Nov. 12 2008,17:19)WJ, I think you missed what I was saying.   Most JW's will give a string of scriptures explaining why they don't believe God is a trinity.   Most who believe in the trinity do so only because this is what they were told to believe.  And just how do you know what is in the hearts of millions of believers? Mi…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Nov. 12 2008,17:55)Mathmatics?Trinity should be 1×3=3or1+1+1=3    But God is one (1), not 3.COThe plurality of oneness is in all of creation which reveals the Glory of God.There is nothing that is, that is not plural in some sence. I challenge you to name one thing.Even your equasion proves this.1+1+1=3The number three is “One N…[Read more]

Hi KenQuote (epistemaniac @ Nov. 08 2008,06:15)“Have you really looked at all the scriptures that say who God is and who Jesus really is?”I would ask this same question to anti-Trinitarians. At any rate, yes, I believe I have, but the bible is an incredible book, I have many things to study and learn, the riches of God's word is so vast that I…[Read more]

Hi KenQuote (epistemaniac @ Nov. 08 2008,06:15)a response to the Trinity part 1…LOL… in response to the charge that Trinitarianism “borrowed” from pagan sources…. while this is a tired old false argument…. it needs to be addressed again it seems…lets first point out that Virgin Birth occurs in Pagan myths…. Perseus was supposedly born…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 12 2008,15:17)Quote in my opinion, and in the opinion of literally millions of other Christians, trinity is found in the scriptures… there…. now that wasn't so difficult, was it? or was that really difficult for you to figure out…?And in my opinion, 96% of the people who believe that the trinity is found in scripture,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 08 2008,11:49)Quote Yeah… funny…. I say exactly the same sorts of things about poeple like you…. especially things like “If a person can't see the obvious, then they have a form of blindness. Bias, indoctrination, institutions, pride of the learned, all play their part.”Eppy, we're just looking at the math.Jehovah–Called…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Nov. 08 2008,04:00)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2008,13:31)WJ….Jesus is indeed my lord but he is (NOT) my GOD. His GOD is MY GOD and we have the same Father who is GOD. The Fathers Presence was in Jesus via the Holy Spirit , but was not Him, Just as the Fathers Spirit can be in us, but not us. Remember Jesus said He could…[Read more]

Hi AllFor those interested, here is some more info on this guy…”Who Was Ronald Weinland?Who in the world was Ronald Weinland before he appointed himself one of the two witnesses?Those who cannot remember their history are doomed to repeat it. –Plaque inside the Jonestown pavilion. Updated July 6.This timeline is taken from Weinland’s own wor…[Read more]

Hi All.This is from the last page of Mr Weinlands book emphasis mine…“When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006, (with distribution in full swing in the fall), there will be a maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time of all human history. By the fall of 2008, the United states will hav…[Read more]

Hi All.Mr. Weinland wrote in his book “Gods Final Witness” that he is the final witness. On Page 87 of the book he writes concerning the opening of the seventh seal in Revelation 10:1-11…“What does all this mean? Simply reading this does not tell you anything specific. It was not written so just anyone reading it could understand. For that matter,…[Read more]