WITQuote (WhatIsTrue @ July 21 2009,14:43)This seemed to me like you were saying that believing that Jesus really said the words attributed to him in John 14:6 is a matter of faith, not evidence.  So, then I innocently asked, “So, is it fair to say that there is no compelling evidence that Jesus said the things that you quoted?”So it seemed to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,13:56)WJ…….here is they way i understand John 1:18………”No one has ever seen GOD” why? because GOD is SPIRIT (INTELLECT) and can (NOT) be physically seen. The seven spirits (intellects) that compose ONLY ONE GOD, is at the FATHERS (LORD”S) SIDE. These are the seven spirits (intellect) before the throne composing…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,22:59)Hi , WJ and TT have elegantly showed us that making Jesus your god takes away his God appointed role of Lord.Not surprising when they have ignored his teachings about this and other matters he spoke on ignoring his given authority.Hi NHThen the Fathers role of Lord is taken away because you claim he is your…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,00:16)Hi WJ, If you choose to ignore Paul and 1 Cor8 and decide that Jesus is not your lord that is surely open rebellion?NHThis is such a lie!When have we ever said Jesus is not Lord?The Father is God, but are you saying that I cannot call the Father Lord?Seriously, you are totally lieing and should be…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 20 2009,19:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,03:42)Quote (942767 @ July 15 2009,21:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 15 2009,19:48)Quote (942767 @ July 14 2009,22:16)Hi datguy:1 Timothy 3:16 in the KJV states:Quote 16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,12:03)Hi WJ, So the Spirit of God poured out is now also the Spirit of Christ and the will of God is that His Spirit would also enliven us in Him in Christ.Hi NHSo God's Spirit became Jesus Spirit?Is there a scripture for that?WJ

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,11:47)WJ…………Spirit is not a He it is an (IT), it is the intellect of GOD, not a separate person or being as TRINITARIANS think. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………………….geneHi GBThanks for your opinion, but it is not scriptural.“Now the Lord is the Spirit“, and where the Spirit of the Lord…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 21 2009,05:29)WJWhy did you ask for evidence concerning the multiple authorship of the torah?It appears from you answer to WIT that only you can give proof for your own beliefs but when others show you their evidence your faith just trumps everthing.Are you seven years old?StuartHi STUBTW, Faith always trumps unbelief!WJ

Quote (Stu @ July 21 2009,05:29)WJWhy did you ask for evidence concerning the multiple authorship of the torah?It appears from you answer to WIT that only you can give proof for your own beliefs but when others show you their evidence your faith just trumps everthing.Are you seven years old?StuartHi STUBecause as far as I am concerned your…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 21 2009,03:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,18:43)Do a study and see for yourself, the word is exclusively practiced on the Father and Jesus and recieved by the Father and Jesus in the NT.This should also be quite troubling to the anti-trinitarians.As a Trinitarian, it was troubling to me that the third person of the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 21 2009,03:25)This is what my source states:Entry for proskyneō at Heartlight's Search God's Word (searchgodsword.org) on July 21,2009:Quote   1.  to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence   2. among the Orientals, esp. the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an ex…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 21 2009,02:11)Is there any Greek word that actually means worship?  I looked up both “proskyneō” and “latreuō” which are sometime translated “Worship” and they don't fit the bill because they can apply to others but God.”shachah” the Hebrew word that is translated “worship” is the same.  When looking at there language, I d…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ July 20 2009,22:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,07:15)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ July 20 2009,16:34)My mistake.  I did, in fact, misunderstand part of your answer.You appear to be saying that believing Moses is a prerequisite to believing Jesus.  Fair enough.My two questions still stand, with the added twist: Why would a…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,21:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:37)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:23)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:17)Which of the several writers who contributed to the 'writing of Moses' are we discussing here?The Moses who described his own death?StuartSTUYou make my point.…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,21:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:46)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:30)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:25)Isn't turning the other cheek an act of defiance against the Romans?Because a back-handed slap was not done with the left hand, it forced the person doing the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 20 2009,20:55)Gene said:Quote thinker…… “unless the LORD shall build the house the weary builders build in vain”. ” Hear o Israel the LORD our GOD is (ONE) LORD”.Yes Gene. Except the Lord build the house. Jesus is the lord and Hebrews 3 says that He built the house. Do you not trust the author to the Hebrews. It…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 20 2009,19:05)Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,06:53)thinker……….Abraham was (reckoned) or Counted as righteous , does it say He was righteous or reckoned or counted as righteous. “For God looked for (ONE) righteous man and found none , no not even one, wherefore he took it upon his own arm to bring salvation”.  Therefore…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:39)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:23)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:17)Which of the several writers who contributed to the 'writing of Moses' are we discussing here?The Moses who described his own death?StuartSTUYou make my point.…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:30)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:25)Isn't turning the other cheek an act of defiance against the Romans?Because a back-handed slap was not done with the left hand, it forced the person doing the slapping to use an open hand, in effect a demand by the person being slapped to…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,12:23)Quote (Stu @ July 20 2009,20:17)Which of the several writers who contributed to the 'writing of Moses' are we discussing here?The Moses who described his own death?StuartSTUYou make my point. Your unbelief does not allow for the possibility that the God of Moses is…[Read more]