Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,16:53)Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,19:05)“What does “I have made thee a god to Pharaoh” mean?”–david (p 15)“It means that to Pharaoh he was “a god” because Pharaoh believed in many gods.”–WJ (p 16)”I have said before that Moses was made a God to Pharaoh because Pharaoh believed in many gods.”–WJ (Page 35)I now see th…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,17:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 06 2009,07:41)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 05 2009,15:36)I have no problem believing that Jesus is my great God and Savior and that His great God is His Father and our Father, our Most High God! You can scream “polytheism” all you want but you really do not understand the unity of the…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Did jesus have the same spirit as believers? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 04 2009,21:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 02 2009,19:24)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 02 2009,02:56)The Catholic church is not a man made orgainization unless you are referring to the God-man Jesus Christ.Hi CAWhere is the Biblical and Historical link of the Catholic Church to Jesus and the original 12?WJIt is…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,04:13)Quote “Was Moses a false god?”–david (p 16)“Neither, because Moses was not a god at all!–WJ (p 16)At one point I asked you if Moses was a false god (since he's not God Almighty).You said “Moses was not a god at all.” But don't you often say that about false gods–that they are not really gods at all?Paul says…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 05 2009,15:36)I have no problem believing that Jesus is my great God and Savior and that His great God is His Father and our Father, our Most High God! You can scream “polytheism” all you want but you really do not understand the unity of the Father and the Son then. If they were not united in love and purpose then you c…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 05 2009,15:19)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 05 2009,14:31)Worshippingjesus said:Quote Big talk David, but no evidence that the GSR is wrong.Keith,I remember a couple of months back David and Kathi both said they had evidence that the GSR is wrong. We're still waiting for the proof.thinkerThinker,I can't recall saying this. Can…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,15:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 06 2009,05:19)Big talk David, but no evidence that the GSR is wrong.No evidence that it is wrong? Is there evidence that it is 100% correct?ev⋅i⋅dence /ˈɛvɪdəns/ Show Spelled Pronunciation Show IPA noun, verb, -denced, -denc⋅ing.Use evidence in a SentenceSee web results for ev…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 05 2009,14:50)TO KEITH:Keith,I haver been contemplating Hebrews quite a bit lately and I have made an observation which I posted in part earlier today. Hebrews chapter two says that Christ was for a little while made “a little lower than the angels.” This is a quote from Psalm 8 inwhich the word “elohim” (god) is used.…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,04:02)Quote To you it is disputed.To Mandy, and Me, and millions of others.Big talk David, but no evidence that the GSR is wrong.So lets look at the context of Titus 2:13 and see who it is talking about!while we wait for the blessed hope-the glorious *APPEARING* (epiphaneia) of our great “God and Savior”, Jesus Chr…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,04:01)Quote If you want a definition of God then look at 66 books about YHWH and Jesus and you will see who and what God is!bingo!That's the point I've been trying to make for 15 pages. YOUR definition of the word “god” is “YHWH and Jesus.”But, if you've been paying attention, Jehovah made Moses a god to Pharoah.So…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,03:55)Quote No. Moses was not a god at all. To Pharaoh he was and that’s it.You're doing that thing again where you say one thing and then a second later, contradict it.Pharaoh was not a god “at all.” “To Pharaoh he was…”Exactly! So you like Pharaoh believe Moses was “a god”!But, YHWH says…Isa 46:9 Remember the form…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,03:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,19:08)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,03:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,18:36)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,02:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,12:03)If he is not at this time subject to the Father then he is equal to the Father.I know this is so hard for…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,03:08)Quote “It means that to Pharaoh he was “a god” because Pharaoh believed in many gods.”–WJ (p 16)”I have said before that Moses was made a God to Pharaoh because Pharaoh believed in many gods.”–WJ (Page 35)Actually, I was wrong. Your statements not only don't answer my actual question, but they are also incorr…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:58)And many people believe in many gods, but Jehovah doesn't make someone a god to them.Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:58)OK, Pharoah perceived it, or more scripturally, “Jehovah MADE Moses” a god to Pharoah.You are not making any sense David!WJ
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,03:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,18:36)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,02:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,12:03)If he is not at this time subject to the Father then he is equal to the Father.I know this is so hard for the Arians to accept, for it is like a bitter pill.Keith,What makes you think…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Hi DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:51)–So, we know Moses wasn't a “false god” right?–Jehovah made him a god to Pharoah.———————————————-What does that mean?Does it mean Jehovah made Pharoah worship him? (We've established now, that the word “god” does not necessarily involve “worship.”)Or does it mean that…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:31)Quote Please David, don't tell us that you hang your doctrine on Moses being “a god” to Pharaoh! Please tell us David that you do not see Moses as Pharaoh saw him!Again, my question which you've managed to ignore for about 13 pages:HOW did Pharoah see Moses as a god?What did Pharoah seeing Moses as a god…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 05 2009,02:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,12:03)If he is not at this time subject to the Father then he is equal to the Father.I know this is so hard for the Arians to accept, for it is like a bitter pill.Keith,What makes you think that Jesus isn't subject to the Father? Didn't the scripture make clear that the…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,18:30)Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:23)“(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)”–DAVIDYour response:“This is a lie David . . .As far as the word “God”, yes I believe it must involve worship as we have shown you that both the Father and Jesus was worshipped…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:23)“(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)”–DAVIDYour response:“This is a lie David . . .As far as the word “God”, yes I believe it must involve worship as we have shown you that both the Father and Jesus was worshipped in the scriptures.”How can you not see how I could be confused?I was asking you…[Read more]
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