IreneI got a kick out of this! I hope you are not “ignorant“, but when I read this I had to laugh! (Emphasis mine)Quote (georg @ Sep. 30 2009,13:11)You can laugh all you want to, it only shows how “ignorend” you are.WJ

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 30 2009,11:30)wj………..Go and type Jeff Benner  on your computer and see for yourself he has a Pictorial for the word GOD and other words used by ancient Hebrews in their writings, and check it out for yourself. He is accredited by many as a Hebrew Scholar. I never said Greek Scholar.  He also has several books in print L…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 30 2009,10:52)WJ………..If you really read the beliefs of the Gnostic's, you would see they and your belief are almost the exact same. And Jeff Benner is Highly acclaimed and recognized as a Ancient HEBREW SCHOLAR. Go to his web site and check it out for yourself, False accusations may distort truth but it can never change it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 30 2009,10:22)WJ…….According to Jeff Benner, a Hebrew Scholar the word GOD was view by the ancient Hebrews as a uni-Plural word meaning POWERS. It's originally pictorial symbol, was the head of an OX with a STAFF,  the Ox symbol was the prime symbol for Power, and the Staff was what they leaned on for support. This was to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 30 2009,01:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 30 2009,16:48)Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 30 2009,00:02)Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 30 2009,07:55)hey t8, would like to know where I last posted, like somewhat of a bookmark, at times the board can be heavy with replies and trying to find my way there can be trying at times. kol…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 29 2009,22:59)WJ…………the LORD said as you quoted.” BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER SHALL THERE BE AFTER ME” If you understood that the word GOD means (POWERS) from the word Elohim. A uniplural word. You would realize That what He was saying was that there were (NO) POWERS Before HIM and there will BE NONE After…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 29 2009,22:00)t8 said:Quote Please tell WJ what you just said, that all instances of theos or elohim are not always in reference to the Most High God. And that sometimes they are in reference to being rulers or magistrates. WJ says that they are only in reference to false gods or the true God and this reasoning leads him…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 30 2009,00:02)Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 30 2009,07:55)hey t8, would like to know where I last posted, like somewhat of a bookmark, at times the board can be heavy with replies and trying to find my way there can be trying at times. kol tuv to you and yours t8.You can also check the box in the options area for…[Read more]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 29 2009,19:34)The statement by St. Athanasius of Alexandria, “The Son of God became man, that we might become god”, indicates the concept beautifully. II Peter 1:4 says that we have become ” . . . partakers of divine nature.” Athanasius amplifies the meaning of this verse when he says theosis is “becoming by grace…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 29 2009,02:06)When you can give a fair commentary and include all scripture, not just the ones you can twist, then someone actually might take you seriously.I just did! Now maybe you can explain to us why you think YHWH wants us to believe the wicked  kings and judges should be called “gods” especially when he says “BEFORE ME THE…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 29 2009,02:06)You neglect to mention this for example:Psalm 82:6“I said, 'You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.'No, you had already mentioned it with a question which I responded to with an answer, which is something that you do not do but only divert attention by making false claims! Quote (t8 @ Sep. 29…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 29 2009,13:37)t8Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2009,20:29)Prove to me that Jesus was saying that they were false Gods, when he said “Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ?”That’s easy…Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand t…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 28 2009,22:16) Why call me an unbeliever when it is obvious that I am a believer?1 Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what “I preached unto you, UNLESS YE HAVE B…[Read more]

GeneQuote (Gene @ Sep. 28 2009,23:48)Jesus being the head APOSTLE. And Himself the Chief cornerstone of that building that GOD is BUILDING. So Jesus was telling a lie when he said…And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock “I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matt 16:18Now compare t…[Read more]

t8Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2009,20:29)Prove to me that Jesus was saying that they were false Gods, when he said “Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ?”Thats easy…Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: “BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD F…[Read more]

BDAs usual your doctrine is selective. You should stick with your true religion “the Islamic” one.You are so blind that you can only see what you want to in scriptures. My fault for being duped into another fruitless conversation with an unbeliever!Jesus point of calling men Father, is in contrast to the heavenly Father!Like I said you confess…[Read more]

CAQuote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 28 2009,19:16)As for those who receive grace from the Church in spite of invincible ignorance….like WJ who has received powerful experiences from God…much like I did“invincible ignorance”?   HMMMM!Who makes this judgment about someone they do not know?The Catholics?WJ

BDQuote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 28 2009,15:58)So you deny the Pope outright?I do not deny the Pope may be Father, but I deny that he is my Father for the word Father entails more than just a title!The Greek word for Father is “Strong's G3962 – patēr and means1) generator or male ancestora) either the nearest ancestor: father of the corporeal nature,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 28 2009,10:52)WJ………I am NOT a Muslim, nor a Buddhist, nor a TRINITARIAN, there are things i strongly disagree with them all with, as I have posted here.  But to say any of them can't post some truths is also false. Trying to pit me as more a Muslim then a Christian is a pure LIE and a good try on your part to some how…[Read more]

t8Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2009,19:14)Also I do not say that Christ is the true God, I say that he is the son of God. Show me where I teach that Christ is the true God or a true God. I teach the truth regarding the use of the word 'theos' as it is applied to God, Jesus, and man. I have always said as scripture says, that the Father is the one true…[Read more]