Hi David, Ed and Irene. You have brought up another one of the Anti-Jesus is God fallacies which I will address tomorrow, until then goodnight and cudos. WJ

Quote (t8 @ June 28 2011,19:05)Let me spell it out for you.The Trinity God is a substance made up of three persons.So if the substance (singular) is the saviour (singular), then that means that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ARE the SAVIOURS.Wrong! Because the Eternal “substance” of God cannot be divided, and since you cannot have one wit…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 28 2011,19:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2011,01:49)Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,17:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,05:12)How many Saviors do you have ED?WJYou have three.The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.How many do you have EdJ?Can you beat WJ?t8That is a lie! My God and Savior are One. Because the truth of the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 28 2011,18:44)The idea that claiming equality to something makes you the same thing certainly fits the Bizzaro World Doctrines description.Bizzaro World is where the Henotheist live for they have adopted Greek Mythology into their so-called Christian faith.They believe Jesus is basically not the “Only Begotten Son of God” because…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 28 2011,18:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2011,05:20)To claim he was the “Only Begotten Son of God” was claiming equality with God.To claim equality by its very nature means that you are not claiming to be thing you are equal to.t8Really? Come on you are smarter than this.If an animal is equal to a dog in nature then it is a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 23 2011,18:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2011,09:17)His name shall be called “Everlasting Father” because he is the source of all things to all of creation. Sure I call him “My” everlasting Father because the scriptures say he is!Be honest, besides now, when was the last time you referred to Jesus Christ as the Everlasting…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2011,14:47)Amen to these scriptures…keep them coming KathiGood thread BTW! WJ

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God (El gibbowr), The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 9:6The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God (El gibbowr). Isa 10:21Coupled with Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2011,12:26)I agree with that post to Mike, Keith (your other posts on this page as well).  We can trust Jesus with EVERYTHING can't we Keith, even creepy people!  Don't lose heart.Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2011,13:28)WJQuote Talk about answering questions, why didn't you answer this one….???How many Saviors do you have Peirre?WJ I HAVE ONLY ONE GOD WHO IS NOT A MULTY ENTITY AND HE IS MY ONLY SAVIORNOW ANSWER THIS ;the one who create is one and the one who is created is another ,right?yes or noPierrePeirreThanks for your…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2011,13:44)Good post Keith, I agree with almost everything that is in your above post. Kudos!Hi KathiThanks! WJ

Quote (Ed J @ June 27 2011,16:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,08:34)Hi WJ,Pointing out that my food comes to me by the hand of a waitress,hardly constitutes as me denying Jesus as savior of the world./quote]EdYes it does because in essence you are saying Jesus is not “The Savior” and “The Owner” of all things and the “Source” of all…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2011,21:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2011,10:34)So why do you keep saying there is only “1 theos/god” when by your own words you believe in and serve “2 theos/gods”?Keith, Do you WORSHIP two Gods as God Almighty?No because my God is the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit because I cannot have or worship one without…[Read more]

Hi ALLMaybe I should create an “Anti-Jesus is The Savior fallacies” thread. Since many of the Henotheist and Polytheist believe Jesus is “a savior” by proxy!  WJ

Quote (terraricca @ June 28 2011,11:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2011,09:46)Mike,You question is misleading because you are acting like one part of the sentence that Paul says is the only part.  When you use the complete thought of Paul's which includes the one Lord part, then I will answer your question.Good night and sweet dreams…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2011,23:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2011,09:55)But the scriptures never say “They are our saviors or they are our theos/gods”, do they?Hi Keith,Moses saved Israel from Pharaoh, right?  King Saul saved Israel out of the hands of the Philistines, right?  Deborah and Barak saved Israel from Sisera of Canaan, right…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2011,22:25)Mike,You question is misleading because you are acting like one part of the sentence that Paul says is the only part.  When you use the complete thought of Paul's which includes the one Lord part, then I will answer your question.Good night and sweet dreams Mike,KathiHi KathiTrue! WJ

Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,17:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,06:15)There is no mention of the Father here…words like “WHO GAVE HIMSELF”, ”That HE” might redeem us from all iniquity, and ”purify UNTO HIMSELF clearly contradicts your agency claim.WJWake up WJ.When we do the will of God and God says to give our self and we do that, we st…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,17:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,06:46)Quote (Ed J @ June 27 2011,14:27)You should not try to separate God from Jesus Christ.Exactly!Our God and Savior is the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit because you cannot have the one without the other!WJThat is three saviours.Don't forget your English plurals when talking…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,17:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,08:47)Do we? Do you believe Jesus is “One God” with the Father and the Holy Spirit?Is your “God” the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit?WJInterpretation:Do we believe that God is triune as Athanasius of Alexandra taught, or that there is one God the Father like Paul of Tarsus…[Read more]