KerwinQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 20 2009,12:05)Please!  The only argument is to support it is to cherry pick the documents that you apply it to.Then prove it wrong and give us a scriptural example where the rule fails!WJ

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2009,00:41)Marty wrote:Quote And so, what the Trinitarians are aguing that since the Granville Sharp rule is true that God and Jesus are the same person based on Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1,I see your point but it has to concede that there is a possibility of Granville Sharp's rule being true which it quite obviously is not.…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 20 2009,17:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2009,09:40)Hi tt, So you offer no real evidence?I offer real evidence. But not conclusive evidence. I have always said that I am not dogmatic about it.Quote The Novum Testamentum Graece is also known as the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, and is in its 27th edition as of this…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2009,01:09)Why do you choose to ignore Hebrews 7:28?Because you inject “Holy Spirit” in the verse!Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2009,01:09)The verses you quote are talking about the HolySpirit.The holy Spirit is not in those verses either!  Why do you ignore the fact that Jesus is the Word in 1 John 1:1-3 and has the name “The Word…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,18:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,09:45)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,17:35)It Looks like you are willing to cross the bridge.Not at all. That is total confusion. You say the Father is the Word that was with himself, and that became flesh, and that the Father is the Holy Spirit which is 1/2 of Jesus at his birth.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 20 2009,00:07)Nick……..And what of the (SPIRIT of TRUTH) that gives meaning to scriptures we read , anyone can Parrot scripture but few truly understand them. Fact is there is no unity where the SPIRIT of The LORD in not there. All who have the Spirit of GOD, understand the WORD of GOD, because the SPIRIT reveals it unto…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 20 2009,00:01)U……….I hope you don't get discouraged by some of the people we have on Here, What you have quoted has been quoted to them hundreds of times but you will find they will simply ignore it and go on as if it never existed in scriptures, But we must remember in 2Ths2  It say GOD would send them a strong deluding…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 19 2009,22:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,10:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2009,15:13)G, Are you quoting scripture? But you told us not to rely on it?Agreed!Gene seems to think that the Spirit of God has shown only him what is true while he claims that scriptures prove his points. But he cannot refute our belief…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 19 2009,22:33)You also “profess GOD But deny the (POWER) there of”. You rely on your (FEAR Religion) and WJ on his 600 hundred “trinitarian” Scholars.  He can't even come to the simple plain word of Jesus that there is (ONLY) ONE TRUE GOD> And “Here O ISREAL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD” amazing!.  IMOHow do you know that s…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2009,18:06)hi WJso you don't believe in the trinity ?,if so please exuse me this is then my mistake please forgive me.          

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2009,15:13)G, Are you quoting scripture? But you told us not to rely on it?Agreed!Gene seems to think that the Spirit of God has shown only him what is true while he claims that scriptures prove his points. But he cannot refute our belief with scriptures but just make empty claims!WJ

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2009,06:54)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 19 2009,17:41)You are correct, and don't see things like these.Trinitarians can't compare verses for some reason.Trinitarians also think the image of God is God as if the image of me in the mirror is me.  Logical reasoning is not their strong point.KerwinForget the dead image in a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2009,17:38)hi WJit is hurting my ears and my eyes to read you comment about the Son being his FATHER, and the FATHER being the SON,the truth can only be understood but proved by the scriptures,not by one WORD in a sentense but the all and total scriptures account.try itIt hurts my ears for you to lie against me!Where…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,17:35)PS. It Looks like you are willing to cross the bridge.Not at all. That is total confusion. You say the Father is the Word that was with himself, and that became flesh, and that the Father is the Holy Spirit which is 1/2 of Jesus at his birth.  Did I get that wrong?

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,16:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:56)You are making an analogy about the scriptures correct?I am telling you the Holy Spirit can reveal it.Is that wrong or right?WJHi WJ,The HolySpirit can reveal what?What is it?Ed JHow about that Jesus is God!The Rock that followed them in the wilderness (1 Cor 10:4) and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,08:08)Can you not see that they are both correct using this representation?So Jesus is God and Jesus is not God!You say the scriptures support both views.So the scriptures are contradictory?WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,16:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:53)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,15:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:39)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,15:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:23)Why do you deny the scriptures?WJHi WJ,Why do you now make false accusations?No believer denies the scriptures?Ed…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 19 2009,15:58)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2009,07:39)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 20 2009,07:27)Keith,ED J's views are so convoluted and confusing that I don't even like to bother with him. Nothing he says makes any sense.thinkerHi TT,Are you afraid of something?1Cor.2:14 But the natural man(thinking man) receiveth not the things of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,15:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:46)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,15:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,06:58)EDThis is why your message is so confusing. You put off like the numbers mean something and now you say…”You cannot learn “anything” from numbers; numbers DON'T teach!”WJHi WJ,If your social…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,15:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:39)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2009,15:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,07:23)Why do you deny the scriptures?WJHi WJ,Why do you now make false accusations?No believer denies the scriptures?Ed JEDYou did! In response to the scriptures I gave you of Jesus being “Lord of…[Read more]