Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,16:54)Hi WJ, Thanks for the clarification. But why would you study the foolish words of men when the Word of God is alive and active?How do you know what that word says!Can you read Hebrew and Greek?If not then you have to either learn how or trust what you read as being true and if you do then why do you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,16:37)Hi WJ, Use of THEREFORE shows your reliance on weak logic rather than letting scripture confirm matters.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,16:37)I guess you will not allow yourself to be convinced of the folly of trinity while it puts food on the table.There are not several GODS. God is ONEQuote (Nick Hassan…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,16:07)Hi WJ, The KJV gives an odd rendering of the verse-try others and compare. Your self justifying theologians would make such claims.Form does not seem to include POWERNHNo but the word “Equal” does!God has form and Jesus had equal form therefore making him God!As far as “self justifying theologians”, they are…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 14 2010,14:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,05:18)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,13:08)Hi WJ, That Spirit of God ever proceeds from God uniting him with His son and those in him. God is all in all.NHJesus sits in the throne of God ruling as God and the Spirit proceeds from both him and the Father!And he shewed…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,14:43)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 15 2010,05:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,05:19)Hi TT, So he has been GIVEN all authority by his greater God yet you would make him another God?He was given back what He agve up of His own volition in the first place (Philippians 2).Now answer the main point of this thread…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,15:30)Hi TT, So if Jesus HAD THE SPIRIT then the Spirit is not another person.Acts 10 .38 tells us God anointed Jesus Christ with the Holy Spirit and powerGod did not anoint one person in Himself….. with another person in Himself did He?NHWhat do you believe the Holy Spirit was literal oil?Are you living in the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,13:08)Hi WJ, That Spirit of God ever proceeds from God uniting him with His son and those in him. God is all in all.NHJesus sits in the throne of God ruling as God and the Spirit proceeds from both him and the Father!And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, “proceeding out of the throne of…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 14 2010,12:37)Marty,You did NOT address my point at all. You said that Christ is still acting in His Father''s name. But my point was that the Father sent the Spirit in Christ's name.So be careful not to accuse me of not hearing you when you are being evasive or you have a reading comprehension problem.Again I ask you:…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 14 2010,12:00)WJ said to Irene:Quote The Holy Spirit took part in the conception just like he does in every conception the difference being a man was not part of Jesus natural birth.BOOM! THINKERJackI like your hair doo!

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 14 2010,10:58)WJ…………Jesus became a Son the same way we do When He recieved the HOLY SPIRIT at the JORDAN, at that point he became a son of GOD. The Voice of GOD said this day i have Begotten you.  Even though Trinitarians have try to change that to mean He was always GOD. There is no difference  between Jesus and O…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2010,20:41)Hi WJ:I will believe what I will believe because it is the truth.  There is “only one God”.Jesus said he would pray to the Father and he would send another helper, because he was going to the right hand of God.  That helper was already with them because he was dwelling within Jesus and would also dwell within b…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Jan. 14 2010,08:02)Then the Holy Spirit is Jesus Father!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way………….Unless you understand how a woman can get pregnant without a man then your argument is a moot point!The Holy Spirit took part in the conception just like he does in every conception the difference being a man was not part of Jesus natural…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 13 2010,19:47)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2010,19:20)Hi WJ:You say the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus?  Please elaborate on this.  I do not believe that this statement is correct.Marty we have been over this before. But here goes.Jesus said that he and the Father would send “Another” counselor.And I will ask the F…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2010,19:41)Hi WJ:Jesus does say that he will send the Holy Spirit, but it is by praying to the Father, and so no, the Holy Spirit is not subservient to Jesus:Quote 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spi…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2010,19:20)

Hi WJ:You say the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus?  Please elaborate on this.  I do not believe that this statement is correct.

Marty we have been over this before. But here goes.Jesus said that he and the Father would send “Another” counselor.And I will ask the Father, and he will give you “…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2010,19:20)Hi WJ:You say the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus?  Please elaborate on this.  I do not believe that this statement is correct.Marty we have been over this before. But here goes.Jesus said that he and the Father would send “Another” counselor.And I will ask the Father, and he will give you “ANOTHER COU…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2010,19:20)Hi WJ:You say the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus?  Please elaborate on this.  I do not believe that this statement is correct.Marty we have been over this before. But here goes.Jesus said that he and the Father would send “Another” counselor.And I will ask the Father, and he will give you “ANOTHER COU…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 13 2010,19:11)It proves that even though Jesus is Ruling, He is doing what Father says or has said.Then why do you choose to see him as servant Messiah in the flesh?He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings sitting in the throne of God ruling as God!He is our Great God and Savoiur and our “Only Master and Lord”. Tit 2:13, Jude…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 13 2010,19:11)It proves that even though Jesus is Ruling, He is doing what Father says or has said.Then why do you choose to see him as servant Messiah in the flesh?He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings sitting in the throne of God ruling as God!He is our Great God and Savoiur and our “Only Master and Lord”. Tit 2:13, Jude…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 13 2010,19:06)The scriptures also say that God will judge through Christ.Where? Even if so. We are not contending that the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit are independant of the other, but that they each play their own role and yet God is One!Why is this not possible for God?WJ