Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2014,20:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2014,08:23)First, Paul says we are to look to Jesus. Why would he say that in the first place not only here but also in many others he points us to Jesus? Why would he not say “look to the Father through Jesus”? And what if Paul, in that particular instance, HAD said, “look to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2014,20:05) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2014,08:23) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb 12:2Yes Keith.  No man has ever seen God Almighty.Wow Mike, so…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 11 2014,13:51)WJ,Are you of the trinitarian tradition that believes “the word is God” is saying the word is qualitatively God?Hi KerwinI believe that the very essence of what God is as Spirit, is exactly what Jesus is. There was a debate by a brother named Isa 1:18 and t8 a while back and he explains it best here…!Also the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,12:48)Can “God Himself” be WITH “God Himself”, Wakeup?Its a trick question! The answer is simply a matter of how you look at it.For instance if Mike would tell the truth here he believes that Jesus is “a god” little “g”.So Mike could say “God himself can be with “god himself”.According to the way he looks at the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2014,17:50) John 6:57 NIV Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.6:57 is a great scripture to show “immediate” versus “ultimate”.Hi MikeOnce again you are only telling half the story.  This scripture is speaking in terms of Jesus coming in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2014,17:50)For example, Jesus is indeed the immediate source of our salvation.  But our God and his God – the one who sent Jesus to be that immediate source – remains the ULTIMATE source of our salvation. Hi MIkeFor our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for ”the Saviour”, the Lord Jesus Christ:  Who…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2014,17:50)Hi Keith,I actually agree with most of what you wrote in that last post to me. Hi MikeAmen! So we finally agree on something! Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2014,17:50)I disagree with your conclusion that those things mean we have a Triune God, and Jesus is one of the persons in that God.   That’s too bad be…[Read more]

If the Lord created everything in the universe then he must be omniscient. He has the hairs of every human numbered, which would mean that when you or I lose a hair he changes his records. He sees and know all and everything is open and naked to him or he would not be God!For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 04 2014,15:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 04 2014,15:06)Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 03 2014,20:56)Mike & WJ,Good points on both sides, “ALL authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” not a “ton” but “ALL”But being given to Him it had to come from the greatest of all the Father.WmHi WilliamBut when was it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,14:09)Hi WJ, You have a dogma to protect. Very unlikely you will let the light in.Hi NickGood to see you! “Some things never change, and some things do.”Quote from the “Matrix”.WJ

Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 03 2014,20:56)Mike & WJ,Good points on both sides, “ALL authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” not a “ton” but “ALL”But being given to Him it had to come from the greatest of all the Father.WmHi WilliamBut when was it given to him? Was not after the days of his flesh?Did he not share the same Glory, Hon…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2014,12:22)If your very first scripture doesn't say what you claimed it did, then should we really bother with the rest of them?Hi MikeWhy not look at it this way. “If all the other scriptures claim what I am saying then why not try to understand what the first scripture is saying based on all the others?”But as usual…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 19 2009,16:58)Hi All!It is claimed by the Henotheist and the Arians that the Holy Spirit is not a person but rather an “It” or the Fathers personal Spirit or some claim that he is just an amorphous power.Also it is claimed that the Father does not live in us but only his Spirit which is an “It”, so that is how the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,12:51)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 27 2013,09:56)Mike…….Why would it not be the same thing as Having it already, can God LIE?,What are you talking about?  What part of what I'm saying means God lied?  Gene, Marty, and Kerwin:You guys can “rationalize” this until the cows come home.  But the fact will ALWAYS re…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 26 2013,02:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2013,11:26)1. Can you be saved without the Father?2. Can you be saved without Jesus?3. Can you be saved without the Holy Spirit?Jesus said, eternal life is this, to know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.The only true God sent Jesus.God, Jesus, and God's Spirit,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 26 2013,02:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2013,11:26)T8That is circular because I find your beliefs confusing. You say you believe in “Only ONE TRUE GOD” yet you believe there are other “gods” like satan.I didn't make the rules. Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ? If he called…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2013,22:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 28 2013,09:39)Babylon which means “confusion” is a spiritual allegory like the mark of the beast. Simply put it is the “systems of religion” that is void of the presence or Glory of God and having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. Anything religous that has no anointing…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2013,13:46)Oh, and as a side note, since the Lamb is NOT the one who created “all things”, he has no choice but to BE one of the “all things” created BY God.So then the Father created Jesus through Jesus? Once again…and APART FROM HIM (Jesus) “NOT ONE THING” was created that has been created..Your theology is a lie…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,20:38)No.  The LOGICAL conclusion is that all things in heaven – EXCEPT FOR GOD HIMSELF – were created by God.Similarly, the LOGICAL conclusion to your perceived dilemma is that all things – EXCEPT THE WORD HIMSELF – were created through the Word.But wait a minute… If God created “all things” through “the Word”,…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Dec. 09 2013,18:00)John 1:3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.T, Scripture—Teaches that Jesus was NOT made – its very explicit and cant be refuted – Nothing was made that **HAS** ***been*** made. Not only did Jesus made ALL things he made everything THAT has been made including S…[Read more]