Quote (JustAskin @ April 06 2010,09:36)Is1;What you have responded to me just shows how lacking your scriptural knowledge is.I feel that you are only here to 'fight a trinitarian corner' and not to put trinitarian doctrine to the test.We have two here already and are happy with beating the be-jaysus out of them – and they are happy to have the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2010,20:08)Quote (JustAskin @ April 05 2010,23:00)Is1,If it so simple to call Jesus 'LORD' because of a quote from the old testament where the author is praying in affliction to YHVH(LORD), his God, then why are not more, ney, ALL, references to YHVH(LORD) not also used to refer to Jesus?In fact, if it were so, why are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2010,20:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2010,11:57)MikeHe already has and you are not listening!Heb 1:10-13 the writer claims the Father is speaking to Jesus who is YHWH according to the Psalmist in Pss 102:22-27.Hi WJ,Yes, I should have also added, “And not where a writer is quoting the OT.”  Now can you guys…[Read more]

MikeThis is the second part of your long post and it isn't getting any shorter. PLEASE DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU ARE WJ OR MIKE, THANKYOU!Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2010,23:40)But about “ALL POWER AND AUTHORITY”:  You are taking it too literally. If Jesus has literally ALL POWER, then Jehovah and the Holy Spirit have absolutely…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2010,19:33)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 05 2010,13:45)Your presuppostion is that only the Father bears the name YHWH in my “godhead view” (what ever that means) and it's obvious to me now that you don't have even a basic understanding of the trinity doctrine.You need to learn some fundamentals…..Hi Paul,Can you show me…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 05 2010,06:07)Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2010,21:55)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 05 2010,21:40)According to the writer of Hebrews who is this said by and who is it said of?“YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS; 11THEY WILL PERISH, BUT YOU REMAIN;AND THEY ALL WILL…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2010,00:28)Does God Almighty need anyone to “give” Him anything ever?Mike Yes, he needs Jesus once he has destroyed all his enemies and subjected all things unto himself, (1 Peter 3:22 – Phil 3:21) including the last one, death (1 Cor 15:25, 26), to hand back the Kingdom and subject himself back to the Father so that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2010,01:02)Great stuff, brother.  Paul explains what should be evident only one time when he says, “when it says 'everything', it is CLEAR that this does not include God”.MikeJust as a quick note, how does Paul saying that the Father is excluded from being under Jesus mean that Jesus is not equal to the Father, since…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2010,01:09)Hello Paul,You must be real smart to come up with that beautiful response all by yourself.  Answer with Scriptures or logic based on them please, not flippant remarks and insults.  That shows hostility and ignorance, not intelligence.  BTW, I'm not a JW.peace and love,mikeMikeI have a response to your po…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 03 2010,00:11)I will be going to the hospital on monday till friday and then for the following six weeks monday through friday. I will not be as active as I have been. Don't want to deal with my old laptop to keep up.Blessings to allMartianSorry to hear that. I hope that it is not serious and that you have a smooth and…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,20:13)WJ,How can a God die?Ja By the way, you tell me for you believe Jesus was “a god” don't you?WJ

Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2010,00:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,16:48)Quote (martian @ April 02 2010,23:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,12:15)Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,20:13)WJ,How can a God die?JABecause death does not mean to cease to exist!WJBoy playing with words again? So you are saying God can go into sheol…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 02 2010,23:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,12:15)WJ,How can a God die?JABecause death does not mean to cease to exist!WJQuote (martian @ April 02 2010,23:52)Boy playing with words again? So you are saying God can go into sheol like a departed soul? Do you just make this up as you go?MartianHeres one for you. Does…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 02 2010,23:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,12:15)Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,20:13)WJ,How can a God die?JABecause death does not mean to cease to exist!WJBoy playing with words again? So you are saying God can go into sheol like a departed soul? Do you just make this up as you go?There is not a single aspect…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,20:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,11:44)Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,19:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,11:23)Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,19:12)WJ,I have not gone away.Nor am I avoiding your questions…by the way, they are a distraction rather than pointed.We've debated these…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,20:36)Jesus died as God?Which part of God died?Then you try to say he did not die but only went down to sheol?I do know what your are cinfusing about… No you read that right: what you are confusing about.You want to mix in the final death, death if the Spirit with death of the soul/flesh.You mentioned this, and…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,20:13)WJ,How can a God die?JABecause death does not mean to cease to exist!WJ

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,19:47)WJ,You know you wanted to say 'Jesus died as God' but you knew that you could not say that. Why?JA Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2010,15:48)Jesus died as both God and Man.You are a either lying or you do not even read my post, which is proof that your motives are not pure but rather you are only here to…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,19:32)WJ,Now that you have lost the debate  –  And all can see that plainly  – you are merely attempting a disaster recovery.Sad to say, you are so transparent with your deflection technique.it's a wonder you donlt just hold your hands  up and say 'yup, you got me/us', Jesus died as man for the remission of sin…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,19:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,11:23)Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,19:12)WJ,I have not gone away.Nor am I avoiding your questions…by the way, they are a distraction rather than pointed.We've debated these points in Trinitarian (Part 2). Remember when you were 'too busy' to answer and let TT…[Read more]