Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,17:16)God does not lie:       Jesus sat down on the throne of His Father, YHVH God.       God shares His throne with no other God.       Jesus is not God.God does not lie.JAWell if Jesus is not God then your view of God is worse than I thought, because that would mean that God shares his throne wiith a mere man&#033…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,18:10)Even more illogical still is the absurdity which they call “compound unity”! (That's the one where the incredibly credulous are invited to scramble their brains with the mathematically preposterous 1+1+1=1!)1+1+1=3 yet the number three is “One Number”! More faliled logic!…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,17:45)There is only two alternatives for Elohim. If you do not want to accept a plural majesty  then you must accept plural Gods.No we do not have to accept anything you say! You have no proof, we do! Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,17:45)You in so much as say it here -“We do have evidence in the Hebrew scriptures of…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,18:23)Secondly, if Jesus had a nature unlike the rest of humanity, He is not like us. Not like his brethren in every way. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.If Jesus was like us in everyway he would have been a sinner also wouldn't he?Jesus had the Holy Spirit without measure didn't he. So that means your man made theory that…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,18:23)How do you know what Jesus was tempted with? Scripture says he was tempted like all men. Just because they are not listed to satisfy you does not mean they did not occur.martianThat is rather circular isn't it? For all you have is satan tempting Jesus with three things. Yet Jesus speedily rebukes him and quotes…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,18:05)Hi Terra,WJ didn't even have the guts just to own up to something so obvious.What then can be expected from him when things are not so obvious? Well, no answer required.We have seen it over and over. Both he, and TT, survive, and frustrate honest members, in this forum by means of such underhanded…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 10 2010,18:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,09:54)Quote (terraricca @ April 10 2010,17:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,06:01)Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,06:46)WJ,Is an Atom 'plural in nature'?Is an Atom more than One?Is a spoon 'plural in nature'?Is a car 'plural in nature'?Is a man 'plural in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,22:46)Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2010,00:53)Jesus is a human being an was tempted by evil just like every other human being is and has been since the time Eve and Adam were tossed out of Paradise.  Even though he was fully tempted as we are he did not sin but instead lived by the spirit of righteousness and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 10 2010,17:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,06:01)Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,06:46)WJ,Is an Atom 'plural in nature'?Is an Atom more than One?Is a spoon 'plural in nature'?Is a car 'plural in nature'?Is a man 'plural in nature'?Is the universe 'plural in nature'?Is Jesus 'plural in nature'?Is God Almighty…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,17:48)WJ,Uh-errh.., wrong answer. You're FIRED!Once again you have cried off for posting anything of any value. What's wrong?Ok, but you could have done the decent thing and just held your hand up and said 'You got me on this, have a good chuckle – for now'.A bit of bravado in your distress ain't a bad thing if it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 09 2010,08:41)If thrones mean that someone is God, God would be more than 12 + 24 persons.t8But “The Throne” is a qualifier for God alone, who shares his Glory as God with none other!WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,15:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,05:31)Two, Jesus definitely does not imply they are not co-equal!Whoa!Which NT have you been reading?  I can't even count the times or ways that Jesus refers to his subserviance to God.mikeMikeYou are sticking your head in the sand again. Hello?Verse 28 the verse…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,15:36)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,05:39)And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2010,20:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2010,04:49)Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2010,05:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,19:32)EDIf I were to guess it is probably like 80% in favour of the Anti-Trinitarians and 20% Trinitarian and that is being gracious.Do bridges take sides? Or do they touch both sides?So now…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2010,20:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2010,04:49)Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2010,05:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,19:32)EDIf I were to guess it is probably like 80% in favour of the Anti-Trinitarians and 20% Trinitarian and that is being gracious.Do bridges take sides? Or do they touch both sides?So now…[Read more]

Hi MikeQuote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2010,10:51)“John 1:1c is the proof my friend for even if you interpret John 1:1c qualitatively, it still means what the literal translation is “And God was the Word” which means that all that God was the Word was, add that with Phil 2:6 that states Jesus was in very nature God (KJV form of God) then Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,06:46)WJ,Is an Atom 'plural in nature'?Is an Atom more than One?Is a spoon 'plural in nature'?Is a car 'plural in nature'?Is a man 'plural in nature'?Is the universe 'plural in nature'?Is Jesus 'plural in nature'?Is God Almighty 'plural in nature'?Please think carefully before you answer.Yes to all!Now explain how…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,11:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,03:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,11:22)My point is, from a trinitarian view, not my view, why two thrones?  If Jesus is God, why does he not sit on God's throne only, why does he need his own.MikeThe bigger question is why Jesus is able to sit in YWHHs throne…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,12:07)And what does Matt 28:19 have to do with the trinity?  Does it say or even imply that all are co-eqaul members of a godhead?mikeMikeFor one they all are spoken of with the definite article.Two, Jesus definitely does not imply they are not co-equal!WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,12:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,02:48)martianSo you say with your bias, but you have no Biblical proof!We do have evidence in the Hebrew scriptures of a plural God as Jack has pointed out, and our Lord Jesus speaks of the Trinity, whether you see it that way or not!Go ye therefore, and teach all…[Read more]