Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ April 20 2010,14:07)Oohh, WJ, getting aggressive…. not like you – Whazup, strugglling??? Are you going to set jack onto me?Hey, I thought we had a Debate “JustAskin vrs WorshippingJesus”?You know, this could be so much less painful if you had the mind to believe.Look through the Posts, WJ, Who has challenged me and prevailed…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ April 20 2010,02:55)WJ,I'm glad that I don't.I'll leave Mike to answer your list of questions but you do realise that you have exposed yourself with Scriptural untruths?None the less, your questions are useful to the likes of Mike, Nick and myself, to help hone our Scriptural responses to those if wrongful thinking,…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Global or Globull warming? in the forum Creation & Science 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (david @ April 20 2010,03:43)Quote Whats funny is the Global warming wackos acually claim that these cold spells and record breaking cold temperatures are part of the Global warming trend.–A wacko.Since you seem to think locally, perhaps climate change is more understandable for you than “global warming.” If you fill a glass up with ice so…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2010,23:09)Hi Thinker,Do the Scriptures say anywhere that Jesus has given power, authority, or anything else for that matter to Jehovah?MikeYes, the scriptures say Jesus will give back the Kingdom to the Father and subject himself who has all authority and power to the Father!Say it isn't so!WJ
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2010,23:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2010,09:29)So the argument that because all things were through Jesus means that he cannot be God is a straw man also.For everything comes to us through and from Jesus also!WJHi WJ, All squares are rectangles. But are all rectangles squares? Everything can be said to c…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2010,23:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2010,10:40)Mike More of your circular reasoning!Jesus always pleases the Father because it is his nature to do only what the Father would do, thats because he is in very nature God just as the Father is in very nature God! Jesus is not “subject” to the Father at this time…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2010,17:55)You and WJ scream the word “ALL” in the “all power and authority” verse. So I will scream the “ALWAYS” in this verse back at you. What does ALWAYS mean, Jack. Only when I'm on earth?Mike More of your circular reasoning!Jesus always pleases the Father because it is his nature to do only what the Fat…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Mike This is flawed logic, because if all things come through Jesus then all things come from Jesus to us.Jesus is the very source with the Father and the Spirit of everything that we recieve.yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, “through whom all…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Mikeboll64 vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 16 years, 2 months ago
Hi MikeGet ready for this is getting long. We might want to write a book after this is over. We can donate the proceeds to the JWs to get a new Bible!
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2010,16:29)I have already explained that if John would have added the definite article to John 1:1c then the reader would perceive that John was saying the Word…[Read more]Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (martian @ April 18 2010,11:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,04:58)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,02:50)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (martian @ April 18 2010,11:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,04:58)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,02:50)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,02:50)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a different creature from other humans. Functionally it defeats one of Christ's major…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a different creature from other humans. Functionally it defeats one of Christ's major mandates.Everything in christ life becomes a matter of speculation. Everything he…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Global or Globull warming? in the forum Creation & Science 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 26 2009,17:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 27 2009,08:48)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 26 2009,16:24)Hi t8Global warming is one of the biggest scams going on today.Unfortunately people like one of our own “Al Gore” who is a huge leader in the movement is making millions off of his fraudulent Campaign.The hypocrisy of the movement is…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Title confusion trick in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (david @ April 13 2010,16:57)The fact that many different ones are mighty ones, or are referred to by that word, does not in itself mean a single thing, at all.DavidBut it is significant! Because you have yet to address the point that no follower of YHWH or Jesus Old or NT called an Angel their “god” or any 'elohiym's for that matter, but…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Mikeboll64 vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 16 years, 2 months ago
Hi MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2010,00:03)Hi WJ,Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,14:24)First of all, adding an indefinite article in John 1:1c is reckless because the term “a God” is nowhere else found in the NT in referring to the Father or Jesus by the translators. The literal translation of the text is “God was the Word”…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Title confusion trick in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
DavidQuote (david @ Feb. 10 2010,21:54)WJ, I think you missed my question. For the third time:If as you say, angels are not gods (Elohyim) “at all” why does the Bible use that exact term to describe them?And you will get the same response…YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Title confusion trick in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ April 12 2010,20:49)Jesus possesses great power but is not Supreme nor all powerful as the power, the majesty, the Might, comes as a gift from one who holds all power.JAThis is not at all what Jesus said is it?John 3:35 – John 13:3 – Matt 28:18 – John 5:22 – John 16:15WJ
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Justaskin vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 16 years, 3 months ago
Hi JAQuote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,17:38) Do you believe there are three spoken of in the scriptures having the same name as Matt 28:19 declares?Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,20:00)WJ, I agree that there are three mentioned in that scripture verse…Good! Then you agree that a Trinity is spoken of in the Bible though you may not see i…[Read more]
Worshipping Jesus replied to the topic Can god be tempted? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ April 10 2010,20:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,10:41)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,18:23)Secondly, if Jesus had a nature unlike the rest of humanity, He is not like us. Not like his brethren in every way. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.If Jesus was like us in everyway he would have been a sinner also wouldn't he?Jesus had…[Read more]
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