MikeI don' have much time but…Now concerning the eating of foods offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that “there is no God but one”. 5 For even though “there are those who are “CALLED gods”,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1 Cor 8:4, 5  SourceJW's say “Called go…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:50)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2011,11:15)The old testament “saviors” were shadows of the REAL Savior which is Jesus Christ.Well Jack,This is exactly what I expected you and Keith to say.  Just like you have to invent the phrases “so-called gods” and “false gods” when those phrases don't exist in scripture,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,13:29)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2011,12:42)Marty,Mike errs on this point. Proverbs 8 is not about Christ but about wisdom which is personified. Wisdom is called a “she” several times in chapters 8-9 and even lives with her companion “prudence.”If wisdom is Christ, then why the feminine pronoun? And who…[Read more]

True KathiJohn the Baptist was called “aggelos” which means “angel” but also can mean messenger, but we know he was not an angel. Once again like “elohim” which can mean judges, gods, God, ruler, etc, so it is a matter of translation based on context. Not all “elohim” were gods neither are all “aggelos” angels.WJ

Nice Kaithi!  Blessings!Keith

Quote (t8 @ July 28 2011,17:25)We should sort this out.I just quoted a post, but I can appreciate that the person in question cannot defend himself there. But wasn't that the point of these types of discussions? I thought that the Trinitarians wanted a discussion where only they participated and they should be free to quote a post and critique the…[Read more]

Does satan have the same nature as the Father?Is satan the “image of the invisible God”?Do the scriptures ever call satan a “Son of God” Pierre? If not then how can God be his Father?Pierre?

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,16:39)WJQuote o let me hear it Mike, let me hear you say “satan has the same nature as the Father God”.Quote Keith,Is Satan a spirit being like his Father?why is it that it is impossible for you to be honest ,Mike did not say what you imply,and you changing the wording so to condemn ?is that the spirit that abide…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,19:05)Hi Keith,The same rules apply to the other thread.  If you want to answer t8's claim, then do so.  He brought you into it, so you should be able to defend yourself if need be.Remind me to delete this post also.ModeratorSo in other words these threads will just turn into another debate.That is not the intent o…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,12:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2011,11:08)Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,11:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2011,10:32)Peirre I don't disregard verse 20 but it looks like you disregard verse 19. As usual when you have no response to a certain scripture that you disagree with then you claim it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,12:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2011,10:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,20:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,07:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2011,20:37)Keith, why won't you answer my post about Nehemiah and Isaiah?  Please answer it.mikeMikeYou don't control me or my post. I am letting you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,21:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,12:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2011,21:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2011,14:55)“But I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt. “You shall acknowledge no God ('elohiym) but me, no Savior except me”. Hosea 13:4Hi Keith, Jack and Kathi:Nehemiah…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,11:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2011,10:32)Peirre I don't disregard verse 20 but it looks like you disregard verse 19. As usual when you have no response to a certain scripture that you disagree with then you claim it shouldn't be there or it is corrupt?You shoud read this thread and check the evidence…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,20:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,07:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2011,20:37)Keith, why won't you answer my post about Nehemiah and Isaiah?  Please answer it.mikeMikeYou don't control me or my post. I am letting you simmer!And two posts later, Keith say this about Pierre:“Thanks again for not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,20:53)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,07:40)Mike,I haven't researched these passages but this is what Gill says about each:From Gill:thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hands of their enemies; such were judges, Othniel, Ehud,…[Read more]

Peirre I don't disregard verse 20 but it looks like you disregard verse 19. As usual when you have no response to a certain scripture that you disagree with then you claim it shouldn't be there or it is corrupt?You shoud read this thread and check the evidence regarding Matt 28:19 Click here!Here is a clip from that thread…There is overwhelming…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,22:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 26 2011,12:44)HaHa MikePlease tell us how Jesus is different than the Father in nature?Keith,Is Satan a spirit being like his Father?MikeFirst off your concept is really whacked if you think satan's “Father” is God the Father.Jesus said to the unbelieving Jews “you are of your…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,22:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,09:25)KathiOnce again you are correct! The scriptures do not claim that we are to be “one with the Father” but we are to be “one with them”.But this “THEM” is always referred to as a “HIM”, right guys?  So why would you now say “THEM” instead of “but we are to be one…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 27 2011,19:39)St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, “All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity.PrincessNow show us where St Jerome “unequivocally” states that he derived his Trinitarian beliefs from the “ancients”.I think he is just stating that the “ancients” were onto something.  WJ

Quote (princess @ July 27 2011,19:37)Mike, I don't do trinity.PrincessReally? Are you a Christian? What about Matt 28:19?WJ