Quote (Lightenup @ June 08 2010,15:06)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 08 2010,14:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 09 2010,01:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2010,21:19)Can you understand that in every instance you give, someone who is not the firstborn (the one born first) is APPOINTED with the rights of the firstborn (the one born first).  Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ June 07 2010,20:40)Actually, if believing in the trinity requires treating ones a chattle, then my heart chose wisely to avoid such teachings. Thinking about such matters has only brought two words for triads ” secular christians' for there is nothing spiritual about them, they cannot speak or gather anything other…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2010,22:14)God, may I never be so intent on being right in my beliefs that I nullify evidence to the contrary.  Amen.MikeThen why are you denying the best witness of the Forefathers and the evidence which is Ignatius?The thing is why are you denying all ot the first and second century Fathers?Here I will post it again…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2010,21:19)Can you understand that in every instance you give, someone who is not the firstborn (the one born first) is APPOINTED with the rights of the firstborn (the one born first).  Jesus wasn't ever APPOINTED with firstborn rights because the real “firstborn of all creation” messed up.  He has firstborn rights s…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2010,18:35)Hi KJ, Certainly Jesus is the captain of our salvation. He is the cornerstone of the house he is building by and for his God.NHWhos building is it Nick?Whos Body is it Nick?Whos Temple is it Nick?The answer is——————>GOD!Oh but wait, the answer is also————————–JESUS!WJ

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 07 2010,18:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 08 2010,10:22)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2010,18:20)Hi WJ, There is no gospel that speaks of a trinity. Whom do you serve?NHWell at least I can always count on you! WJKeith,We posted nearly at the same time. See my post above in case you missed it.JackJack Good post!…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2010,18:20)Hi WJ, There is no gospel that speaks of a trinity. Whom do you serve?NHWell at least I can always count on you! WJ

Quote (JustAskin @ June 07 2010,17:36)WJ,I really and truly feel sorry for you – You used to be a good adversary – now you just a joker…goodbye!JAPlease don't run like that. You are changing your usual method of response and I am worried.You are supposed to post more of your ad hominems and puked up diatribe.I need you JA to continue to be the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 06 2010,22:39)I think they do understand the difference, which is why they are trinitarians…..Hi PaulExactly!

Quote (t8 @ June 06 2010,22:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2010,15:52)Quote (t8 @ June 05 2010,19:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2010,08:47)NHDoes that mean you will throw that verse out like Matt 28:19?WJNo, it means that you study the whole word and put verses into context of truth as it is presented in scripture.We know…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 06 2010,19:07)WJ,Your desire to discredit and cause confusion has distorted your noodle brain.There are several things going on in what I write and you have deliberately distorted what i wrote because it showed Jack to be wrong.You laughed at me thinking it was ME that was wrong and now you see that you were wrong you are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2010,15:28)Hi WJ, Jesus as God was never preached by the anointed ones. Whom do you serve?NHHow do you know since you do not believe the Bible is reliable because you say certain text shoudn't be there?WJ

Quote (kerwin @ June 07 2010,14:32)Do not forget that your enemy is erroneous doctrine even if it is your own and let God deal with those who reject the true gospel of the Anointed One.KerwinAgreed, one should reject the false Jesus that is being preached!WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2010,18:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 07 2010,07:35)God from God, not firstborn within a group of created beings.Hi Kathi,We finally find an issue that we can unite on, and instead of lending support to the evidence supplied by Eusebius, you go off into la la land again. Is Jesus a part of the group of things that God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2010,08:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2010,16:11)Hi MikeSo what, even if what you say is true the term “Monogenes” is never given to Jesus until after he came in the flesh!How about listening to some real evidence Mike.What does Ignatius say about Jesus and his origen, “Born yet not Born”?Ignatius was a disciple…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,23:58)Hi WJ, Is there a way of rationalising 1 Cor 8 out of existence?NHYou mean like Matt 28:19?WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2010,17:13) THEREFOREEusebius DID mean only begotten when he used monogenes, right?  Hi MikeSo what, even if what you say is true the term “Monogenes” is never given to Jesus until after he came in the flesh!How about listening to some real evidence Mike.What does Ignatius say about Jesus and his origen, “Born yet not…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 05 2010,19:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2010,08:47)NHDoes that mean you will throw that verse out like Matt 28:19?WJNo, it means that you study the whole word and put verses into context of truth as it is presented in scripture.We know overwhelmingly that there is one God and Paul teaches us that there is one God the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 05 2010,18:58)WJ,You just hurt me then – You lied deliberately – You lied to God.You deliberately took that quote out of context to try and deflect away from laughing at your buddy – Don't laugh WJ – This shows you are a dishonest person (didn't we know it already)JANo I gave you the whole quote and it still says the same…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,16:45)Hi, Desperation to give some sort of foundation to a dogma that is not written-trinity-leads to one verse studies like this.NHDoes that mean you will throw that verse out like Matt 28:19?WJ