Quote (Oxy @ July 02 2010,20:42)If Jesus is in the water being baptised, and the Holy Spirit descends upon Him, and His Father commends Him from the clouds, then I see three.Unlike some who believe in the three, I do not believe they are coequal.  There is no Scripture to support that, but on the contrary Scripture does say that the Father does…[Read more]

Hi MikeQuote (WorshippingJesus @ July 01 2010,07:39)How can Jesus be greater than the Father unless the Father gave him greater authority and power than he had which by the way is infinite?Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2010,19:18)Jesus can't be greater than the Father.Thanks Mike. So you admit then that Jesus could not be greater than the Father…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2010,10:32)WJ………….I have no personal Beef against you personally, I in fact i respect you in some ways, I believe you are an intelligent Person, But when it come to you Trinitarian Beliefs, yes i totally disagree with them brother but that does not mean i have any Beef with you personally or KJ Or Isiah 1:18,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2010,21:18)I've made your point “a” null and void.  I've done the same with your point “b – parts 1 and 2”.  And I am really looking forward to your answers to my rebut of B-1&2, so I can beat you over the head with Ignatius in “b – part 3”.   MikeThere you go again Mike. Claiming victory over something you have not pr…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2010,21:56)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 02 2010,06:01)WordhippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote I am done with your diversional methods of debate and I am beginning to question your honesty!Exactly!KJI think you spelled it wrong.  It is not a “diversion”, but a “division”.  I divide out all the stuff you spew at the s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2010,21:26)oops, I thought the word “referree” was “preferrence”   That's what happens when you get old.I offer Ed J or Gene.  You pick which one.  They are not to comment or offer opinions at all – only direct one of us to answer the others question and rule on if it was in fact answered in a direct fashion if the ot…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 01 2010,10:50)Pick your referee Mike. I am done with your diversional methods of debate and I am beginning to question your honesty!WJWJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2010,22:17)Whoo Hoo!  You FINALLY answered, bless your heart.I asked: When it says “all power and authority”, does it mean above Jehovah or not?You said:Quote The answer is an obvious “NO”, because scriptures tell us Jesus is not above the Father nor beneath the Father but at his right hand!We'll get to the “right…[Read more]

Hi allMike once again is insisting that I have not answered his question, even though I had told him to go back and read the post over again because I had already answered him.He has admitted he won't even read our post if he doesn't see what he wants to see.Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2010,19:26)If you move off the second point, I will not read…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 30 2010,15:15)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 01 2010,05:35)Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 29 2010,01:21)SimplyForgiven,John 8:43  Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.  44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2010,21:33)Hi WJ,Just answer this:  When it says “all power and authority”, does it mean above Jehovah or not?Didn't want you to forget.peace and love,mikeMikeThe answer is an obvious “NO”, because scriptures tell us Jesus is not above the Father nor beneath the Father but at his right hand!This is another one of your…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2010,15:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2010,01:35)Jodi………They just do not understand that Personification of Adjectives is done a lot in scriptures, Jesus even described the Father that way , He told the disciples He spoke of the Father in provers (fictitious illustrations)  and a time would come when he would speak…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2010,11:21)Now i chose to use the meaning for For (because of) him (GOD) in there and For the Word Through i Chose (By reason of) him (GOD) So let me quote it as I read it WJ.Rom 11:36, For of GOD, and by the reason of GOD and to GOD are all things: to whom be glory forever Amen.The reason i said start with verse 32…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2010,22:41)WJ……….Start in verse 32 and it will tell you Who is being discussed there. JUST ANOTHER DIVERSION TO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION AGAIN Brother.peace and love  to you and yours…………….geneGene Thats exactly my point.If you say that all things are through (dia) the Father and he is God, then you…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2010,16:26)JK……….Have you ever looked up the word used there for through. Check it out you might get enlightened. also while you are at it look up the word For. And Keep in mind GOD said He created it all alone and by himself. You can find that in Isaiah.  peace and love and my God help you to come out of that…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,16:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2010,08:03)Quote (JustAskin @ June 29 2010,15:27)PLEASE can someone tell me what Scriptures actually says that Jesus created:Powers;Principilities; things visible or invisible all things were created “THROUGH Him” – The Holy Spirit being active in Him.The holy Spirit of…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 29 2010,15:27)PLEASE can someone tell me what Scriptures actually says that Jesus created:Powers;Principilities; things visible or invisible all things were created “THROUGH Him” – The Holy Spirit being active in Him.The holy Spirit of God.The Principle Son of God – ALL THINGS are attributed to the Principle SON – Just as…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 29 2010,15:37)Why do we have to answer only Mikes questions?SFExactly!WJ

MikeBTW the first point like SF has stated is still open and not closed just because you say it is!WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2010,19:26)WJ seemed to think that was funny.  I challenge any of you to show where I wanted to start over in this thead.  This thread started when I posted a response from WJ from another thread. You started over again because when you addressed the first point of my post here (8th post down), I answered you point b…[Read more]