Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,13:30)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,12:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the father.Son of Man = Man.Son of God = God…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,13:11)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,04:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the father.Son of Man = Man.Son of God = God…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,13:11)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,04:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the father.Son of Man = Man.Son of God = God…[Read more]

DavidQuote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,13:06)Here is part of the dictionary defining “theos” that you don't want to use:4) whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any waya) God's representative or viceregent1) of magistrates and judgesAnd here is the part of the definiton of “Theos” that you don't like…the Godhead,…[Read more]

DavidQuote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,13:06)Here is part of the dictionary defining “theos” that you don't want to use:4) whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any waya) God's representative or viceregent1) of magistrates and judgesAnd here is the part of the definiton of “Theos” that you don't like…the Godhead,…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,12:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,10:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,12:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,10:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2010,10:34)WJ…………..Mighty God and the (ALMIGHTY GOD) are not the same thing. One is powerful the other is (ALL) powerful. Saying they are the same is an (ASSUMPTION) on you part.The assumption is on your part.For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2010,10:34)WJ…………..Mighty God and the (ALMIGHTY GOD) are not the same thing. One is powerful the other is (ALL) powerful. Saying they are the same is an (ASSUMPTION) on you part.The assumption is on your part.For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,19:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 26 2010,18:09)Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,17:55)I believe all that but I also believe that scriptures support the Son being the firstborn over all creation and that firstborn created all things in heaven and on earth.KathiAmbiguous, for the term “firstborn” in relation to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,19:30)Eventually there is a source, someone un-begotten.KathiHe is the “begotten Son” because he emptied himself and came in the flesh.Or did you forget that part?Scriptures do not support Jesus begetting before the ages, that is merely conjecture!WJ

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,18:47)He didn't say the I and the Father “am” one.No that would be improper english.But he did say I and the Father “are one” not “are one” in unity. But he also said he was the “I am”, didn't he?Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,18:47)I believe in unity within the Godhead.  The beginning that I believe in is…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man = manSon of God = GodJesus is both God and man for…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man = manSon of God = GodJesus is both God and man for…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:01)Who do you say that he is? Should we believe YOU or the BIBLE?Isaiah said Jesus would be called “Mighty God”. Isa 9:6Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my God”. John 20:28Paul called Jesus his “Great God and Savour”. Titus 2:13Paul also called Jesus the “Rock” that followed the children of Israel in the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:01)Who do you say that he is? Should we believe YOU or the BIBLE?Isaiah said Jesus would be called “Mighty God”. Isa 9:6Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my God”. John 20:28Paul called Jesus his “Great God and Savour”. Titus 2:13Paul also called Jesus the “Rock” that followed the children of Israel in the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man = manSon of God = GodJesus is both God and man for he is the Word that was with God and was God who took on the likeness of sinfull flesh…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man = manSon of God = GodJesus is both God and man for he is the Word that was with God and was God who took on the likeness of sinfull flesh…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 26 2010,23:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,03:41)Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man = manSon of God = GodYou've put your foot in it now.Sons of God = Gods/gods/theos?t8Not at all. For Jesus is the “Monogenes” (only of its kind) Son of God isn't he?Since Jesus kind is God, then Jesus is God!Does the term…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 26 2010,23:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,03:41)Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man = manSon of God = GodYou've put your foot in it now.Sons of God = Gods/gods/theos?t8Not at all. For Jesus is the “Monogenes” (only of its kind) Son of God isn't he?Since Jesus kind is God, then Jesus is God!Does the term…[Read more]