Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2010,10:33)WJ……….Are you word with you and are the of you, that answer is obviously yes unless you are quoting someone else's words as Jesus was doing. He plainly said the words he was speaking was (NOT) His words. peace and love……………………..geneGeneTo you it is obvious. But to me the Text says…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2010,23:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,01:43)Yea I have heard you say this before as if the Father is the Father of all.Is he the Father of satan or satans children? (Ye are of your father the devil)Come on now WJ. What sort of argument is that. We both know that God is the God of all good and no evil is in him.…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 13 2010,23:00)John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was (of) God.But the word is not in the greek text in over 5000 manuscripts. You are adding to the scritptures my friend.Dangerous to say the least.WJ

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2010,01:39)Mike……….The point being it was NOT the Water Baptism that (begot) Jesus it was the HOLY Spirit that did it.  That was my point. It was right away (AFTER) HIS BAPTISM Not before or during but ( AFTER) when He came Out of the WATER. Jesus was not begotten (WHEN) He was Baptized it was AFTER when the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2010,01:39)Mike……….The point being it was NOT the Water Baptism that (begot) Jesus it was the HOLY Spirit that did it.  That was my point. It was right away (AFTER) HIS BAPTISM Not before or during but ( AFTER) when He came Out of the WATER. Jesus was not begotten (WHEN) He was Baptized it was AFTER when the…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,03:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,08:43)Hi all!It has been claimed by some that the majority on this forum believed that Jesus was begotten before the ages or time as the Only Begotten Son of God born from Gods own body through procreation. When was Jesus “begotten”?What say you?WJThe son (the Word/Jesus) was…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,03:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,08:43)Hi all!It has been claimed by some that the majority on this forum believed that Jesus was begotten before the ages or time as the Only Begotten Son of God born from Gods own body through procreation. When was Jesus “begotten”?What say you?WJThe son (the Word/Jesus) was…[Read more]

Hi AllI will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; “this day (Gr. yowm) have I begotten thee. Pss 2:7The Greek word for “Day” is Strong's H3117 – yowm which means;1) day, time, yeara) day (as opposed to night)b) day (24 hour period)1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 12) as a division of timea) a working day,…[Read more]

Hi AllI will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; “this day (Gr. yowm) have I begotten thee. Pss 2:7The Greek word for “Day” is Strong's H3117 – yowm which means;1) day, time, yeara) day (as opposed to night)b) day (24 hour period)1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 12) as a division of timea) a working day,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2010,17:03)Keith,I don't know anything about a semi-arian except from your quote.  I would think that you are a semi-tinitarian since you don't believe the Son always existed as a Son.  You preach another Jesus than those Trinitarians that preach that the Son existed as a Son before the ages, and which the Nicea Creed s…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2010,13:28)As far as polytheist, I recently showed you a quote from Tertullian that explained that away.  Do you call him a polytheist?Yep, anyone that says there is more than “One True God” and worships them is a polytheist, IMO.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2010,13:28)Are you still going to call me…[Read more]

MartianDoes God reproduce other “Gods” exacly like himself. Does God bring birth to a being from his own body by the natural process of procreation? That is what the poll is about.Thanks

MartianDoes God reproduce other “Gods” exacly like himself. Does God bring birth to a being from his own body by the natural process of procreation? That is what the poll is about.Thanks

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2010,17:32)Keith,You have called me many things that I am not and I do not care to go through the threads but these are some that come to mind:DishonestArianPolytheistanti-trinitarianthat I insist that 'begotten' always means to be 'born'KathiKathi1. Dishonest.I have to see context because I am sure there was a reason I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2010,02:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 11 2010,02:49)t8You once said…”The Father is 'who' God is and the “Spirit” is 'what' God is”.So instead of using the word “Substance” since that seems to bother you, though it is a “Scriptural” term, lets use the word “Spirit”.There is “One Spirit”, and my Bible tells me that “the…[Read more]