Hi KathiHere is some more…St. Chrysostom 347-407 For this, as I before said, he has shown by the term “Word.” As therefore the expression, ““In the beginning was the Word,” shows His Eternity, so “was in the beginning with God,” has declared to us His Co-eternity. For that you may not, when you hear “In the beginning was the Word,” suppos…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2010,12:19)I agree with this:Quote (If any one say that the Father is greater, inasmuch as He is the cause of the Son, we will not contradict this. But this doth not by any means make the Son to be of a different Essence.)  http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf114.iv.lxxvii.htmlKathiRemember you should always quote in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2010,10:24)I like to add these 'unbegotten God' terms that I find in the writings of church father's.  This excerpt is talking about 1 Cor 8 where Paul is discussing  how there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is one God, the Father…and one Lord, Jesus Christ.  I think that St. Chrysostom has something wo…[Read more]

BumpQuote (Baker @ Sep. 03 2010,16:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2010,08:08)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 02 2010,15:47)Hello!  This is going to be a very short post.  If the Holy Spirit is a person, would He then not be His Father? I have asked this before and got no answer.  Hope you WJ answer me this time….Peace IreneIreneI have answered you ma…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 03 2010,17:17)Math. 15:9 In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.  The trinity is a doctrine that Quintus Septimius Florence Tertullian first came up with in the third century.  The first Christians did not teach it…. It is said that the trinity is Tertullians best achievement to C…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,17:17)wJ, i sense the devil in you. You are an unholy snake who slithers and slides around in the dust and dirt. You have nothing of value either to say nor contribute, except to act as an opposer. Still, what would  Sherlock Holmes do without Morarty?Dittos back to you JA. It is you that constantly accuse and…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,16:59)WJ, WJ…what is wrong with you. Do you not think i know that verse…Jesu was …responding… To the Jews who were accusing him . Jesus himself did not initate it but just responded.So where else does Jesus call himself the Son of God?WJ, you really outdo yourself. You have retrograded. Not surprising since…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,16:37)Note that Jesus NEVER called himself 'Son of God' directly. He alway called himself, 'Son of Man'. Why?JA you should read more rather than just critisize and condemn.Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because **I said**, I am the Son of God“? John…

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,16:24)WJ, what is the name of your One God?The Father is called YHVHThe Son is called 'Jesus'What is the name of the Holy SpiritAnd the One God that you say embraces them, what is his name 'that I, too may worship him', 'that I can tell the people'?Ha HaYou think the Fathers name is 4 Hebrew consonants called the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,16:19)WJ,You have amnesia or else you really like being thrashed. What do they call people like that, phlagerlists, 'i loved being flogged'erlists?Just ignore my posts and save yourself the embarassment.Being given Honor and Glory and Praise, does not graduate one to  'God Status'.Anyone, Spirit, Human, animal or…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 03 2010,16:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2010,08:08)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 02 2010,15:47)Hello!  This is going to be a very short post.  If the Holy Spirit is a person, would He then not be His Father? I have asked this before and got no answer.  Hope you WJ answer me this time….Peace IreneIreneI have answered you many ti…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,01:57)In addition, 'Jesus' is also given 'Power and Riches'. Who from? If Jesus is God, then he already has 'Power and Riches'!Hi all Again he is not speaking the whole truth.And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 03 2010,01:57)Trinitarians, note caeefully, do not call the Holy Spirit, Theos, except by the creed. They do not use Theos in everday discussion, only as backing from the creed. They do not 'Worship' the Holy Spirit, indeed, they do not Worship Jesus Christ, but merely state in in the creed.Hi all.This is a lie and spoken…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2010,20:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2010,08:08)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 02 2010,15:47)Hello!  This is going to be a very short post.  If the Holy Spirit is a person, would He then not be His Father? I have asked this before and got no answer.  Hope you WJ answer me this time….Peace IreneIreneI have answered you ma…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 02 2010,15:47)Hello!  This is going to be a very short post.  If the Holy Spirit is a person, would He then not be His Father? I have asked this before and got no answer.  Hope you WJ answer me this time….Peace IreneIreneI have answered you many times.So let me take another approach.If the Holy Spirit is not a person as yo…[Read more]

Hi MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,19:58)Well hello there Mr. Worshipping Someone OTHER THAN The Only True God Whom We Are Required By Scripture To Worship ONLY,Ha Ha. Yes I do “worship” the King of Kings and Lord of Lords (1 Tim 6:15 – Rev 17:14 – 19:16) for he is my Great God and Savour (Titus 2:13, 14) and My Lord and God (John 20:28)…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,21:08)Keith has hounded me over and over saying, “Mike, you say Jesus is “a god”, but do you call him “my god”?  I have answered many times, but he will not let it go.  So I have brought it here in the hopes of ending it once and for all.  This will also be a Q and A debate, where only the ONE bolded question ne…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 31 2010,21:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 30 2010,11:50)KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2010,11:49)“I am Yahweh, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God.” Isaiah 45:5This view is different than the current trinitarian view of three Gods in one triune being.This is a misrepresentation of the truth. Read the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 31 2010,03:50)I see them as One God, One Spirit, not as 2 Gods who share a spirit which is your view.”‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.” Isaiah 44:6 “Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.” Isaiah 44:8 “I am Yahweh, and there is no other; Besides Me t…[Read more]

KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2010,11:49)“I am Yahweh, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God.” Isaiah 45:5This view is different than the current trinitarian view of three Gods in one triune being.This is a misrepresentation of the truth. Read the Athanasian Creed. There are not 3 Gods that make one God.That is the way you see God as…[Read more]