Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 30 2010,19:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 01 2010,03:19)My actual quote was…“I just realized that the verse is prophetic of the coming Messiah and it relates to his ancestry or his being of the seed of David. He is the root and the offspring of David and this verse speaks of his ancestry as David’s offsp…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 30 2010,11:40)WJ,Would you believe that I have no authority to issue 'blocks'. My only authority is to delete posts in certain threads.However, this does not mesn that JA is toothless nor impotent.Indeed, the ability to scoff and scorn,On unscriptural yawnMeans having great insightAnd spiritual might.A scriptural truth to a…[Read more]

Hi JAThis post is for you since you are a “moderator” on this board. I would report it to t8 but he has enough on his hands just watching over this forum.The following post by Mike is a lie and a misrepresentation of the truth. I had already mentioned this to Mike but he just blew it off and now he has posted it again.First of all he takes a par…[Read more]

Hey MartianMay the Lord be with you. We will see you again when you feel like being entertained. WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 28 2010,21:03)That's it?!?!  Really guys?  Personal attacks of me, but not ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURALLY BACKED REBUTTAL? We have the brain trust in agreement that if it says “this day” it must be a literal day, but if it says “day of antiquity” then it isn't literal…….but nothing to actually back that up. I wonder if it s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 26 2010,12:12),too small to be one of Judah's clans,from you there will come out for Me,One Who Is to Rule Israelwho “real comings” are from the eternal past. AB – Whose “going s forth have been from of old, from ancient days — eternity. ASV – whose goings forth” are from of old, from everlasting. DHB – whose “goings…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,22:51)If Jesus was Created first, than why mention he is the IMAGE of the invisible God?  shouldnt it be backwards? shouldnt it say he is the firstborn of all creation the image of the invisible God? no IT DOES NOT!Good point Dennison. WJ

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2010,13:50)Keith,With comments like this from Athanasius, I see there is the word 'begat' and the word 'offspring.'  I see that it was the Father who begat the Son and the Son is not only called the Son but also an offspring. This is not a 'begotten by designation or predestination.'Quote Well, then, the Word of God…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2010,06:56)Regarding 'begotten' the creeds decree that it was before the ages and that would mean that those who hold to the creeds would at least agree with you  that it happened before the ages and that is a ton of people, not just a 'few' people here…and it is not a begotten which was 'designated' or 'predestined…[Read more]

Hi AllThe following is an example of the illusive, diversionary and dishonest tactics that Mike engages in and one of the reasons I will not continue this debate with him.In Mikes post he copy’s a “half quote” of mine and then proceeds to put words in my mouth through false accusations.Mike quotes me…Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 27 2010,22…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 27 2010,19:30)Day, this day, what day, there was no such thing as 'days' nor any such thing as 'day' before there were days.God would have had to say, 'You are my Son, From Eternity I have begotten you'.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2010,20:36)Hi JA,I won't answer to your arrogant posturing any longer.  I made the mistake of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2010,21:10)Keith:Quote In other words Mike if you want to say that this means Jesus  had a beginning then the only beginning it would be speaking of is “the ancestry of the expected ruler that traces way back to David’s time as well as David’s city”. When he came in the flesh as the “offspring of David”. In other wo…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 27 2010,23:05)SFThe relationship with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was always the same.WJQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 27 2010,16:08)Ok… so Before Days, within Eternity, The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit always had a relationship with eachother?This doesnt make sense to me at all.SFSince Gen 1:1 indicates…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:07)There has to be one scripture somewhere Mike that says there were days before the “FIRST DAY” in Genesis 1:5.  Micah 5:2 proves nothing because of the various meanings and translation of the words.Where is the clear scripture that says there are “Days” before the “FIRST DAY” in Gen 1:5?Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,02:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2010,02:02)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 25 2010,14:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 25 2010,23:36)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 25 2010,13:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 25 2010,19:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,16:27)KathiOk if what yoiu say is true then…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 27 2010,10:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,23:22)Hi Dennison,I stated that if anything exists there is time.  So we know that God always existed, therefore time existed.  Time and existence go hand in hand with each other imo.  Because God exists, therefore time exists and in that order.  What happened on day one of cre…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 27 2010,11:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,17:21)I am reposting what Chrysostom says about how the Father beget another “of Himself, like Himself, except Him not being the Father.”Quote “And every tongue,” should “confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” That is, that all should say so;…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 27 2010,10:08)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 26 2010,19:13)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 22 2010,04:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 21 2010,15:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2010,22:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 21 2010,14:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 21 2010,04:14)MikeWhen Jesus touched the lepers (leprousy was a type of sin) he did not…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 27 2010,03:30)Mike,Are you Greek? 'For Greeks require proof'.I do not, as you no doubt observe, delve into minutae of definitions such as to cloud the original point and tangentially go off into phylosophy la la land, where, once entered, there's no way back, a 'bottle trap'. This is why your debates never end and no…[Read more]

SFEd comes up with the number 74 for Jesus because if you add the numbers that correspond to the letter, i.e. a=1 b=2 c=3 d=4 etc. you come up with the number 74 for Jesus.It is a flawed system which can be manipulated for instance the following…“YHVH is GOD”=117  “Made up Bible code” = 117You can make up what you want and claim it means some…[Read more]