Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,15:20)BTW PeirreYou never answered my question…“Do you pray to Jesus and have fellowship with him?If not why not?If so how do you explain the conundrum you have of praying to anything or anyone but God? WJBump for Peirre…

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2010,15:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,14:12)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2010,14:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,13:23)Hi AllDavid and Mike claim they have answered my points, but I am going to bring them up again so everyone can see that they have not. Also I have bolded the points in the end so…[Read more]

Peirre If you are not gonna add anything to the discussion then please stop spamming the thread with foolish diatribe. This is considered to be in violation of sight rules you know?WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2010,15:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,12:00)Quote (942767 @ Nov. 04 2010,21:22)WJ:He said: for my sake and the sake of the gospel.  We are submitted to God through him.  When we obey him we are obeying God in that he is doing the will of God.MartyWhat does this mean Marty? Are you saying you are not s…[Read more]

BTW PeirreYou never answered my question…“Do you pray to Jesus and have fellowship with him?If not why not?If so how do you explain the conundrum you have of praying to anything or anyone but God? WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2010,14:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,13:23)Hi AllDavid and Mike claim they have answered my points, but I am going to bring them up again so everyone can see that they have not. Also I have bolded the points in the end so that they have another chance at proving me wrong.In John 4:20-24 the word “proskyneō”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 05 2010,13:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 04 2010,16:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2010,15:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 04 2010,14:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2010,22:06)They both had valid points.  Much like HN.  We will probably see a new creed in our lifetime that takes 'only begotten' out of it entirely.  …[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2010,23:38)Keith,Quote To say Jesus is another being from God is to divide the essence.Can you tell me your definition of the word 'being' here?Also, what do you mean when you say 'divide the essence?'Can you please explain this in a simple way for me?KathiIt is simple. To divide the essence of God would be making the…[Read more]

Hi AllDavid and Mike claim they have answered my points, but I am going to bring them up again so everyone can see that they have not. Also I have bolded the points in the end so that they have another chance at proving me wrong.In John 4:20-24 the word “proskyneō” is used 9 times in Jesus discussion with the Samaritan woman about the “True…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 04 2010,21:22)WJ:He said: for my sake and the sake of the gospel.  We are submitted to God through him.  When we obey him we are obeying God in that he is doing the will of God.MartyWhat does this mean Marty? Are you saying you are not submitted to Jesus, but only God through him? Are you saying that you are not obeying J…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 04 2010,21:32)Hi All,I can't believe this.  Kathi and Keith are still arguing that the soldiers were “mock worshipping” Jesus.Matthew 27:27-29 NIV27 Then the governor’s soldiers took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole company of soldiers around him. 28 They stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him, 29 an…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2010,17:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,16:39)Hi AllJesus said…For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake. Acts 9:16Only God could demand suffering for his names sake.WJWJwrong again,it is not God who give his live it was his son,and you do not understand the meaning of the demand…[Read more]

Hi AllJesus said…For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake. Acts 9:16Only God could demand suffering for his names sake.WJ

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 04 2010,17:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,06:30)To allAnother point is that worship is not simply a bowing down in respect of another but is also a form of “COMPLETE DEVOTION” to another. It is a condition of the heart.To follow one even to death is also a form of worshipping that person. For where your heart is…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2010,17:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,11:21)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2010,11:52)WJshow me here are the scriptures;were is Jesus equal to his father;;allJn 14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. Jn 14:14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2010,17:07)[WJif you can not follow Christ while you are alive in the truth ,then why you think you would glorify him in dead and how can some one glorify him (Jesus) in dead??it is in our  resurrection that he will be glorified,because we have stick  to his truth,and gods word wen  we could in our live.PierreSo in ot…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 04 2010,16:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,06:21)TNotice Jesus words that “HE WILL ANSWER OUR PRAYERS”. Imagine that? John says Jesus will answer our petitions to him…These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2010,14:57)Yeah, I win  just kidding…it wasn't so hard to find after all.Quote And this is not all, but there is another remark to make: that if you say, “Because it is said ‘One God,’ therefore the word God doth not apply to the Son;” observe that the same holds of the Son also. For the Son also is called “One Lor…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2010,15:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 04 2010,14:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2010,22:06)They both had valid points.  Much like HN.  We will probably see a new creed in our lifetime that takes 'only begotten' out of it entirely.  This will further the evolution away from the original intent as I see it.KathiYour po…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2010,14:57)Yeah, I win  just kidding…it wasn't so hard to find after all.Quote And this is not all, but there is another remark to make: that if you say, “Because it is said ‘One God,’ therefore the word God doth not apply to the Son;” observe that the same holds of the Son also. For the Son also is called “One Lor…[Read more]