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- August 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm#102889treverendParticipant
First of all Stu that's not a Christian thing, the Jews did that in the Old Testament, and they stopped practicing stoning around the time of Jesus I'm pretty sure, but in the New Testament no Christian ever stoned anyone and Jesus never stoned anyone or told somebody to stone anyone. That was a part of the old covenant of the Jews, Christians don't do that since Christianity is the fulfillment of Juidiasm.
August 25, 2008 at 5:48 am#102844treverendParticipantlol! Why would God send a Atheist to test Christians, that really makes no sence. God doesn't want to hurt our faith he wants us to build it up while we rely on Him even in our suffering.
August 24, 2008 at 10:29 pm#102816treverendParticipantAnd you guys are all wrong about the game so are the people who talk about it, they just hate it because it's based off the Bible, play the game and then you'll know.
August 24, 2008 at 10:24 pm#102814treverendParticipanttheodorej it's ok if he says that, he's right, Christians and the Church is never to wage war, never should the Church go against anyone.
August 24, 2008 at 10:21 pm#102811treverendParticipantAnd look at it this way Stu, in real life if we were experiencing the rapture right now and the AntiChrist was mass killing Christians as we speak and if you were a Christian and had a wife and children would you watch them be killed and do nothing back? It's self defence. I know Jesus said to turn your cheek if someone wants to strike you but that's totally different than someone wanting to kill you.
August 24, 2008 at 10:18 pm#102809treverendParticipantStu, not the case, even if your cornered you have to use prayer and worship to get out because if you kill someone you have to restart the mssion, and Not3in1 you can kill but your not sopposed to kill anyone. The only ones in the game who can kill without losing is the Army of the AntiChrist and the American Army.
August 23, 2008 at 1:01 pm#102753treverendParticipantAnd kejonn before you say that evoltion isn't proven but neither is God, let me tell you this. God doesn't have to be proven. He is revealed to those who earnestly seek Him though. And Jesus said blessed are those who believe and have not seen. God is outside of this world, in a spiritual world, and He does not have to be proven, He wants His children to believe and trust in Him by faith and in truth. Also did either of you ever hear of Laminin? It's the thing that holds our bodies together, they are cell adhesion molocules. They are in the PERFECT shape of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Bible says Jesus holds everything together! How true! Right now there are millions of tiny crosses holding you together, isn't that crazy?! God said He is Maker of all things, visible, and invisible. that doesn't leave much room for the theory of evolution or the big bang theory, now does it?
August 23, 2008 at 12:51 pm#105724treverendParticipantHmm, lol Well, God is spirit, and God chose to manifest Himself in the 3 persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And who God is, is an awesome God.
August 23, 2008 at 12:47 pm#102752treverendParticipantkejonn I don't know the story behind all that but no one is perfect, you can't judge Kent by his actions, tell me the full story first, I heard that he didn't pay any taxes but he didn't know he had to since most ministries are tax exempt and supported by donations. As far as I know anyways, I'm only 15 so obviously I don't know much about money stuff, lol. And Stu, biologist say that evolution is true, I know they do, but for the scientist who are honest with themselves and are open minded and not biased on any side will see the evidence and know for sure that it was itelligently designed, now not all these biologist bbelieve in any certain God but they do believe it was designed. As to that I say right on! Look at so many of the animals. You have to be blind to not see the design in all creation.
August 23, 2008 at 12:40 pm#102751treverendParticipantI know about Thunderf00T, and and did you say real stuff? How do you know evolution is real stuff? It's not science that's for sure, atheist have to except is by faith, it cannot be tested and analyzed in a lab or observed therefor the theory of evolution = not true science and it should not be taught to kids in schools because it is unproven and it's one of the greatest lies in modern times. Also, for Stu, Galatians 1:20 says…
20I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie.
Would Paul really assure before a God that he believed in if he was telling lies? I wouldn't. An Paul had WAY more faith than me and therfore obviously he would not.
August 23, 2008 at 12:34 pm#102750treverendParticipantSo Stu do you think that… even if Jesus existed that His followers made up the miricles that He did and the prophecy that He fulfilled? And why would they do that? The Apostle Paul was a Jewish Pharisee before Jesus came to him, why would the Jewish people leave behind their expectations of a Savior to follow a false one? And also Stu, I find this verse last night.
Galatians 1:20
Also about when I said why would the Apostles die for a lie, the Islamic connection you made with that just doesn't make sence. Christians and Jews say I will die for what I believe but a Muslim would say you will die for what I believe, see the difference? People won't just die for a lie and suffer persecution, sure people might kill in the name of a lie and a false God (because any god that would tell his people to kill, what kind of god is that?) but would you die for it, would they preach it even at gunpoint? The Apostles did not do this in vain, they did not give glory to a lie but to God. Now I love Muslims and I understand most of them are not radical, I know a missionary family from Jordan because the wife of that family used to go to my Church and they came back to share how their ministry is going and I to might be a missionary to Muslims for awhile, I'm not sure yet, but I'm not against the people in Islam, I hate the religion of Islam as does God because it is a lie from Satan but we are to love the people that were decepted by Satan's lies, such as you and evolution. Christianity is not a religion, religion = hate. Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ, and that's it.
August 23, 2008 at 12:19 pm#102748treverendParticipantLeft Behind is not a violent game like people think, you have to play it to know. Mostly all the missions if you kill even 1 person you lose. The company said over and over again it's not convert or die, and the manuel says it too. People should play the game before they assume things.
August 23, 2008 at 4:57 am#102716treverendParticipantAnd Stu, ALL the Gospel writers knew Jesus, most of them spent 3 years with them, and the ones that wern't with Jesus like the Apostle Luke got his information from the Aspostle Peter. Why would a brother of Christ lie to another brother of Christ? Especially if the brother in Christ has been with Jesus.
August 23, 2008 at 4:53 am#102715treverendParticipantPsalm 22 is filled with predictions! I will show Psalm 22 in all it's fullness and but comentaries of how it relates to Christ even though it was like 1000 years before Christ, it's amazing!
1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? (Jesus said this while he was on the cross! Just like this word for word!)
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel.4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.
(These verses are talking about Christians, read them and make a judgement, it's clear.)6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.
(The Bible says Jesus becam nothing, lowering Himself he became a servant. People hated him much like atheist and so many others hate Christians, they hate God and want nothing to do with God.)7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
(The Jews mocked Jesus while he was on the cross telling Him that if He is the Messiah to take Himself off that cross but they did not understand these prophecies wich I am trying to reveal to you.)8 “He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him.”
(See!! They told Jesus to take Himself off the cross.)9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THESE VERSES! READ CAREFULLY! WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
THEY HAVE PIERCED MY HANDS AND FEET! JESUS THE SAVIOR THEY HAVE NAILED HIM UPON THAT CROSS!17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
JESUS' RIBS AND BONES WERE SHOWING AND THEY WERE ALL POPPED OUT OF JOINT!18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
AWESOME!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE ROMANS CAST LOTS ON JESUS' CLOTHES!! HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PROPHECY IN THIS? YOU ARE SPIRITUALY DISCERNED.19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save me from the horns of the wild oxen.22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you will I fulfill my vows.26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.August 22, 2008 at 9:07 pm#102649treverendParticipantAnd did you ever hear of VenomFangX on YouTube? I think you should watch some of his videos. http://www.youtube.com/venomfangx
August 22, 2008 at 9:02 pm#102648treverendParticipantI meant the new testament, my bad. I'm still tired.
August 22, 2008 at 9:01 pm#102647treverendParticipantIsaiah didn't write Psalm 22 King David did but yeah, lol. the prophecies in the Bible are way more complex and detailed that what you said just read all of Psalm 22 it isn't that long and you will know what I mean. And I know about Josephus but do you have proof his writing were altered? Even if they were it would be crazy to say Jesus never existed, few historians will argue the existence of Jesus. And Josephus is not the only out of the Bible source of Jesus. And also… why do you think so strongly that the people who wrote the old testiment lied about Jesus, and even more important, why would they have died for a lie? All of them were killed except for the Apostle John, the Apostle Paul was whiped by Romans more than 1 time and he was happy every time. Why? Because he was being hurt and persecuted for a lie? They all endured the persecution to bring glory to God. And are you going to say the apostles didn't exist neither even though there were disciples trained by them such as Polycarp and Irenaeus?
August 22, 2008 at 8:36 pm#102645treverendParticipantCreation, wishful mythology?! lol Seriosly dude, science points toward God and the creation, evolution is based off of so called “scientific proofs” that were proven wrong 100 years ago. A evolutionist once said that all evidence points towards a Creator but he said he chooses not to believe just because he doesn't want to, I'l lfind that quote but evoltion is a lie, and God exist whether you believe it or not, your theory doesn't change God's reality.
August 22, 2008 at 8:33 pm#102643treverendParticipantJesus saved me from sin, no earthly thing like your speaking of. And your right, most the world are not Christians, and most Christians who profess to be Christian are not. The Bible even says that, Jesus said the road to destruction is wide and many people will pass through it but the road to eternal life is narrow and few will find it. And did you know God perfectly predicted the death of Christ 1000 years before it happened? Those wern't just Roman soldiers and that wasn't just a man, He was God in the flesh and those Roman soldiers completed anctient prophiesies. There are many prophesies of Jesus' death way WAY before it happened but just take a look at Psalm 22 and tell me that it isn't talking about Jesus, it clearly is, he was no ordinary man… and that was no ordinary death. It was the pivet point of Human history which God had planned since the beginning and also prophesied about. Even our calender is centered around the death of Christ, this wasn't no little thing, it was the hugest thing to happen in ALL Human history!
August 22, 2008 at 8:19 pm#102634treverendParticipantAnd your signature says that we shut the door to your questions. I will answer your questions the best I can. I'm going to Bible school to be a youth Pastor so please test me, ask questions about evolution vs creation or anything.
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