Hi T8,

How do you refute this verse, Roman 9:5?

5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

ESV: 5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

In this verse, Paul clearly…[Read more]

Kerwin,

Apologies, I used the wrong word. I meant to say Satan is not OMNISCIENT (all-knowing), not omnipotent.

He must have heard about the birth of the Son of God, but he needed to test it himself, and so that’s what he was doing.

I meant to say that this does not prove that Jesus is not the ruler of the kingdoms of the world and so that He…[Read more]

Kerwin,

The Scripture does not tell us that at this stage Satan already knew who Jesus is. It is possible that Satan is really testing if Jesus is really the Son of God. Satan is NOT omnipotent. When he could not make Jesus sin, he probably started to suspect that this is THE Son of God. And when Jesus started His works, he really became aware of…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

I thought you do not believe that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Hi Kerwin,

So, in those verses Jesus is speaking as Himself. While in other verses, it’s the Spirit indwelling in Him speaking through Him. So, how do we tell when Jesus is speaking as Himself, i.e. as an avatar, and when the Spirit is speaking through Him? Don’t you think that you are forcing your view too much? When Jesus is saying something…[Read more]

Jesus is NOT another God. He is the same God. You are wrong, and have never refuted the arguments/verses that I quoted, but only repeating the same statements again and again and again.

You will have to worship Jesus, and by believing that He is just one of us, YOU ARE BEING IDOLATROUS!

Nick,

You said:

From the time he was anointed at the Jordan and led by the Spirit

which words did he say that did not come from the indwelling Spirit?

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John 15:26

“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

So, who is sending the Spirit…[Read more]

t8,

I don’t think Jesus ever said that He is merely an avatar of the Spirit of the Father, and so it is the Spirit talking through Jesus. That is not Scriptural. In fact, He says things that involve the 3 of them in equal positions, such as:

John 16:13-15 (ERV version):

13 But when the Spirit of truth comes, he will lead you into all truth. He…[Read more]

t8,

I don’t think Jesus ever said that He is merely an avatar of the Spirit of the Father, and so it is the Spirit talking through Jesus. That is not Scriptural. In fact, He says things that involve the 3 of them in equal positions, such as:

John 16:13-15 (ERV version):

13 But when the Spirit of truth comes, he will lead you into all truth. He…[Read more]

t8,

Thank you. Well, I guess the Trinity doctrine is just a conclusion of what the Scripture says. We have one God, but that one God revealed Himself in 3 forms (persons). We, perhaps, can call Him anything, including Trinity, as long as the essence is the same.
The logic is simple. If Jesus is a mere man, not God, then worshipping Jesus will be…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,
Thank you for explaining your opinion.
Well, if we go with the other meaning other than time, i.e. that verse does not actually mean that Jesus was living before John was born, then what does it mean?
Based on your investigation, it may mean that John says that Jesus has a higher rank than himself because Jesus is “first”. My question…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Well, if you believe in the Word and think that you follow God’s commands, then I am not your judge.
I can only wish the best for you.
Our God will be our Judge.
May God bless you!

Hi Gene,

Hmmm… you are saying that many scriptures have been written by trinitarians.
So, since you are a unitarian, I know now that you do not believe in the Scripture.
Well, if you do not believe in the Scripture, I have nothing to do with you. I mean, it is a matter of faith. If you believe, you believe, if you do not, then you do not. There…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,

Here are some translations:
AV: 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
BBE: 15 John gave witness about him, crying, This is he of whom I said, He who is coming after me is put over me because he was in existence before…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Oh yes, it is written in the Scripture.
You are definitely stepping of the right away and lost….

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No the man of the Spirit was speaking of the Spirit in Jesus.

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Then the word was made flesh at the Jordan and dwelt among us.
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And where is the Biblical verses to support your speculation above? No Biblical support means speculation.

Christianity is NOT polytheism. We believe in a triune God. So, essentially all is One.

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No the man of the Spirit was speaking of the Spirit in Jesus.

The Word was with God in the beginning.

Then the word was made flesh at the Jordan and dwelt among us.
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And where is the Biblical verses to support your speculation above? No Biblical support means speculation.

Christianity is NOT polytheism. We believe in a triune God.…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

I think you are saying that about yourself.

You are denying what is written in defence of your own speculation.

John the Baptist clearly says that Jesus predates him. What do you say? You say, no, Jesus did not exist before John. So, it’s you who are defending your own speculation against what is written in the Scipture. Prove to me…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

I think you are saying that about yourself.

You are denying what is written in defence of your own speculation.

John the Baptist clearly says that Jesus predates him. What do you say? You say, no, Jesus did not exist before John. So, it’s you who are defending your own speculation.

I never say that Jesus is a not man and is not a…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

I think you are saying that about yourself.

You are denying what is written in defence of your own speculation.

John the Baptist clearly says that Jesus predates him. What do you say? You say, no, Jesus did not exist before John. So, it’s you who are defending your own speculation.

I never say that Jesus is a not man and is not a…[Read more]