GeneBalthrop wrote:

“Tigger…….GOD AND HIS WORDS ARE ONE AND THE SAMETHING, Jesus said the word he was telling us was not “HIS” words, buth the words of him who sent him,so how do you conclude JESUS IS THE WORD HIMSELF? Jesus said the FATHER WAS “IN” HIM SHOWING HIM EVERYTHING TO SAY AND DO, DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS WAS THE GOD THAT WAS “IN” HIM? NO…[Read more]

@NickHassan

We find the truth of John 1:1c by examining all parallel constructions in John‘s writings and grammar (as explained in Lesson A).

@NickHassan

We find the truth of John 1:1c by examining John‘s writings and grammar (as explained in Lesson A).

@NickHassan

We find the truth of John 1:1c by examining John‘s writings and grammar.

Kerwin wrote:

“tigger and Umb5,

“John 1:6 uses theou without the ho to mean God.”

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I have already pointed out that the other forms (theou, theon, etc.) are inconsistent with their article usage and, therefore, like”prepositional” constructions, are improper examples.  We are interested only in the examples of…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:

“tigger and Umb5,

“John 1:6 uses theou without the ho to mean God.”

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I have already pointed out that the other forms (theou, theon, etc.) are inconsistent with their article usage and, therefore, like”prepositional” constructions, are improper examples.  We are interested only in the examples which…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:

“Umb5 and tigger2,

“It is the modern custom to call God by the name God but I am not sure if that custom existed in the first century. In John 1:1 and in other passages of the NT the word ho should have been translated to a English definite instead of dropped so it is more like “The Word is with the God and the Word is God …” or “T…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:

“Umb5 and tigger2,

“It is the modern custom to call God by the name God but I am not sure if that custom existed in the first century. In John 1:1 and in other passages of the NT the word ho should have been translated to a English definite instead of dropped so it is more like “The Word is with the God and the Word is God …” or “T…[Read more]

UMB5 wrote,

“So in all the gospels when they meant “God” (alone without “a”) they always used “ho theos”, and all bible translations render it without the “a”,  except at John 1:1 where it does not have “ho” in front of “theos” but yet it is still translated without the “a”.. ? Which is why it is probably a mis-translation.

“I just wan…[Read more]

Kerwin,

I really appreciate your reply to what I have written.  I haven’t had any honest responses to it until UMB5 wrote the above post.  Here’s the thing with John 10:33:

In Lesson A I show that we are interested in the form of the word for “god”/”God” which is used for subjects (and predicate nouns) as it is found in John 1:1c.  This would be…[Read more]

Kerwin,

I really appreciate your reply to what I have written.  I haven’t had any honest responses to it until UMB5 wrote the above post.  Here’s the thing with John 10:33:

In Lesson A I show that we are interested in the form of the word for “god”/”God” which is used for subjects (and predicate nouns) as it is found in John 1:1c.  This would be…[Read more]

UMB5,

Thank you, so much.  Not so much that you seem to agree with my findings, but because you actually took the time to examine what I have found.  I don’t believe anyone else has done that before!

Now if we can just find a few more who are willing to learn (or who have honest corrections for what I have written about John’s grammar and i…[Read more]

Whether John intended the Logos (the Word) to be a pre-existent person in John 1:1c, or he intended it as something else – the truth is that the Logos is described as a god according to the rest of John’s (and all the other Gospel writers) grammar and usage in the rest of his writings. – https://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/

EdJ

“Do you feel Jesus is ‘a god’?”

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Do you think he is a God-appointed king?

EdJ:

“Are you suggesting that you are ‘a god’? ‘Yes’ or ‘No’?
My question is simple enough, please answer my question.”

Of course not.

What makes you think I have even implied such a thing.  Certain ones such as God’s Kings, Magistrates, and even angels have been called gods in the scriptures.  These are ones who were appointed by God to…[Read more]

EdJ:

“Are you suggesting that you are ‘a god’? <span class=”bbcode-color” style=”color: white;”>.</span>’Yes’ or ‘No’?
My question is simple enough, please answer my question.”

Of course not.

What makes you think I have even implied such a thing.  Certain ones such as God’s Kings, Magistrates, and even angels have been called gods in the s…[Read more]

miia:

“Why do you follow the doctrines of men? There are many errors in the Watchtower teachings.”

I personally check out what to believe by studying the OT and NT texts.  The real question is:  Why do you follow the doctrines of men rather than following the example of the Bereans? – Acts 17:10, 11.

miia:

“Why do you follow the doctrines of men? There are many errors in the Watchtower teachings.”

I personally check out what to believe by studying the OT and NT texts.  The real question is:  Why do you follow the doctrines of men?

miia wrote:

“Hi Tigger,

“calling lessons an independent study, when (possibly) being influenced or motivated by a society such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses will put many off reading a long study.”

It seems that most anything will keep Trinitarians from reading even the short lesson A in the “Seven Studies.”  Apparently most would rather read ON…[Read more]

miia wrote:

“Hi Tigger,

“calling lessons an independent study, when (possibly) being influenced or motivated by a society such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses will put many off reading a long study.”

It seems that most anything will keep Trinitarians from reading even the short lesson A in the “Seven Studies.”  Apparently most would rather read ON…[Read more]